Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge)

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/07/world/threats-responses-conspiracy-tales-indonesians-say-they-suspect-cia-bali-blast.html

THREATS AND RESPONSES: CONSPIRACY TALES; Indonesians Say They Suspect C.I.A. in Bali Blast

By JANE PERLEZ

Published: November 7, 2002

The American ambassador here, Ralph L. Boyce, does not have to venture far from his heavily fortified embassy to be challenged about who was responsible for the Bali bombings that killed more than 180 people.

The perception among many of the educated elite in this largely moderate Muslim country is that it was not, as the United States has suggested, a radical Islamic group with links to Al Qaeda.

Instead, they blame the Central Intelligence Agency. Some have argued that the United States prompted the Bali attack as a way of prodding Indonesia to join a possible war against Iraq.

Yet again, Mr. Boyce told a news conference -- this time in Bali several days ago -- that Indonesians should stop ''pointing fingers elsewhere.''

''The country needs to come together behind the leadership here and address the issue of terrorism,'' he said.

For many Indonesians, and especially moderate Muslim leaders, it is proving difficult to accept the idea that a homegrown radical Islamic organization -- Jemaah Islamiyah, headed by a frail-looking cleric, Abu Bakar Bashir, who lies ailing in a hospital bed in police custody -- could have had a hand in a terrorist act on its own soil.

But given the history of the United States in Indonesia during the cold war, it is not illogical to blame Washington for the Bali violence, some Muslim leaders said.

''People see the hand of the United States in the fall of Sukarno,'' said Nurcolish Madjid, the most prominent Indonesian Muslim scholar. He was referring to the covert support in 1958 by the Central Intelligence Agency of dissident Indonesian generals ouster of Indonesia's founding president in 1965 after he incurred Washington's displeasure for many years.

Further, during the three decades of authoritarian rule under Suharto, Mr. Sukarno's successor,many Indonesians viewed the United States as supporting the government efforts to repress Islamic expression, Mr. Madjid said.

''They take that as a precedent for this kind of thing,'' Mr. Madjid said in an interview.

Remarkably, there have been no strong stirrings against the arrest of Mr. Bashir. The absence of protests is an encouraging sign, American officials said, illustrating the idea that the vast majority of Indonesia's approximately 180 million Muslims are indeed of moderate persuasion. Threats by some Muslim leaders that Mr. Bashir's detention would inflame emotions have not been borne out so far.

The police have said Mr. Bashir was being questioned about a series of bomb attacks in Jakarta, including one at the city's biggest mosque, in 2000. Mr. Bashir, who was arrested in the days after the Bali bombing, is not a suspect in that case, the police said.

But while the lack of public protests over Mr. Bashir's arrest is a relief for Washington, American officials say they are dismayed by the reluctance of moderate Muslim leaders to discredit radical Islam in Indonesia and its connections to terrorism.

The Americans ask why mainstream Indonesian Muslims will not say in public what they say in private: that radical Islam's connection to terror is un-Islamic. They also wonder why conspiracy theories about the United States are so prevalent in Indonesia. Is it ignorance or arrogance, one American official asked this week, that makes Indonesians blind to the threat of radical Islam?

Mr. Madjid, 64, a graduate of the University of Chicago who is considered an elder statesman of moderate Muslim thought in Indonesia, cautioned, ''If the government, especially, is too quick to point the finger to Muslims, that will feed the radicals.''

Americans should recall, he said, that initial suspicions in the bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City ''were that Muslims did it,'' and that those suspicions ''turned out not to be true.''

Mr. Madjid said it was not clear to him that a radical Islamic group was the instigator of the Bali attack, which hit a nightclub filled with Western tourists drinking and dancing on a Saturday night.

He doubted, he said, that an Indonesian group would have ''strong'' links to Al Qaeda, as the United States is asserting.

Rather, he said, he believed that the attack had more to do with Indonesia's ''internal politics.'' He said he suspected that some elements in the Indonesian Army, anxious to take advantage of the weak leadership of President Megawati Sukarnoputri, might have been involved in the bombing.

''In an underdeveloped country like this, to be in power is everything,'' Mr. Madjid said. ''The military is out of power. For some of the military people to be out of power is unacceptable. Military factions could have had a hand in this.''

Another Muslim leader, younger and more politically involved is Din Syamsuddin, secretary general of the Indonesian Council of Ulama. He said he strongly objected to the American focus on radical Islam as a source of terrorism.

He said he believed that the United States was behind the attack. ''There is no logic that it was done by an Islamic group in Indonesia,'' Mr. Syamsuddin said. ''Muslims don't deny there are terrorists in this country. But there is no fact that there are Indonesian Muslims doing it.''

Indeed, Mr. Syamsuddin, 44, who has a doctorate from the University of California at Los Angeles, said logic dictated that the United States directed the Bali operation.

He said he based his conclusion on his interpretation of the following events: the deportation of a Qaeda operative, Omar al-Faruq, who worked with Jemaah Islamiyah, from Indonesia to American custody in Afghanistan in June; the dispatch of Indonesian police officials to see Mr. Faruq around the time of the Bali bombing; and the arrest of Mr. Bashir, several days after the bombing.

American officials have said the Indonesian police were sent to question Mr. Faruq as part of an effort to persuade the Indonesian government that Jemaah Islamiyah was indeed connected to Al Qaeda.

American officials dismissed Mr. Syamsuddin's account as one of the ''conspiracy theories'' now going the rounds in Indonesia.

Mr. Syamsuddin, who organized three meetings between Ambassador Boyce and Indonesian Muslim groups this year, said the United States could do one thing to show its sincerity in determining who is responsible for terrorism in Indonesia.

He said there was ''an insistence that al-Faruq should be brought back from United States custody, to make a fair trial here'' for Mr. Bashir.

That would allow the accuser and the accused to face off in court, he said, adding, ''If Bashir is found guilty, no one will support him.''

Dans la série de "coïncidences" que l'on trouve dans les dossiers qui nous intéressent, il faut remarquer que James Pavitt était à Berlin-Est entre 1978 et 1980.

Or, sur le site

http://bsltaocnke.tripod.com/

il est longuement question de Patrick Furey :

Ralph Leo ("Skip") Boyce, Jr., a career civil servant from Virginia who was recently American ambassador to Indonesia, and two American consular officials in Bangkok, Christopher Richard and Thomas Patrick Furey, conspired with pedophiles and traffickers in women and children to traffic prostitutes and children to Europe and the United States. They aided pedophiles and procurers in eluding the Thai police and escaping the country a decade ago. (...)

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Patrick Furey a été en poste à Berlin-Est entre 1979 et 1983 ...

Patrick Furey a donc très probablement travaillé avec James Pavitt ...

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http://nigeria.usembassy.gov/thomas_furey.html

http://intelfiles.egoplex.com/2003-12-05-911-MFR-Tom-Furey.pdf








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James Pavitt était "Deputy Director for Operations (DDO)" pour la CIA de 1999 à juin 2004.

James Pavitt était le chef de station CIA à Luxembourg entre 1983 et 1986.

James Pavitt a très probablement connu Thomas Patrick Furey à Berlin Est entre 1978 et 1980.

Thomas Patrick Furey a accordé des visas à des terroristes du 11 septembre 2001.

Thomas Patrick Furey connaissait Ralph Boyce à Bangkok

Ralph Boyce est accusé avec Thomas Patrick Furey de pédophilie (le cas remonte à 1995).

Ralph Boyce connaissait Guillaume Vogeleer (avant que Ralph Boyce devienne ambassadeur) qui est lui aussi accusé de pédophilie (le même cas en 1995).

Guillaume Vogeleer a rencontré Richard Slott (CIA) et Stefano delle Chiaie (WACL, etc) vers 1983-84.

Guillaume Vogeleer a rencontré John Singlaub (CIA, WACL, etc)

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Il semble logique de se demander sur Ralph Boyce et Thomas Patrick Furey faisaient partie de la CIA.

Dans les accusations de trafics d'êtres humains contre Guillaume Vogeleer, on inclut la famille de son épouse en Thaïlande.

Guillaume Vogeleer a rencontré le chauffeur de Paul Vanden Boeynants (pédophilie et/ou drogue ?)

Guillaume Vogeleer a rencontré le commandant Léon François, "Bruno" Farcy, Vienne, etc

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Guillaume Vogeleer semble avoir été un contact pour les mercenaires qui cherchaient un contrat en Asie. Il semble aussi avoir été un contact pour les trafiquants de drogue.

Il est probable qu'il a fait de même dans des affaires de moeurs (si l'on en croit ce qui est écrit au sujet de la famille de son épouse).

A-t-il transmis les informations dont il avait ainsi connaissance à certains "services" (on peut penser en premier lieu à la CIA), éventuellement à des fins de chantage ? Le commandant Léon François et l'Etat-major de la gendarmerie collectaient-ils également les renseignements de ce genre ?

Safe for Democracy: The Secret Wars of the CIA
Par John Prados





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Sur John Singlaub aux Philippines, voir

http://articles.latimes.com/1987-02-18/news/mn-2677_1_philippines


Diplomats, Filipinos Debate Ex-General's Role : Singlaub Sparks Controversy in Manila

February 18, 1987|MARK FINEMAN | Times Staff Writer

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Dans l'extrait suivant, on voit que le café "Renaissance" de Charles Masy servait de lieu de recrutement de mercenaires...

Fire Power
Chris Dempster & Dave Tomkins





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Schéma de Libert :





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Sur Pierre Eveillard :

http://ajscp.free.fr/doc/jp/0405_Tribunalpremi%E8reinstance_100604_Eveillard.htm

Dans le schéma de Latinus (voir le précédent message), Pierre Eveillard est lié à Charles Masy. Il n'y a pas d'explications au sujet de ce lien. Une possibilité est via Paul Vanden Boeynants ; puis, soit via le commandant François, soit via le chauffeur de Paul Vanden Boeynants, on arrive à Guillaume Vogeleer, proche de Charles Masy.

On voit aussi un lien entre Pierre Eveillard et "La Vega", sans doute César de La Vega, membre de la loge P2 argentine, en poste à Paris. Là non plus, pas d'explications ... On peut noter que la loge P2 conduit à Stefano delle Chiaie (et aussi à Guillaume Vogeleer) ainsi qu'à Hans de Belder ... qui est peut-être celui dont il est question dans le réseau Spartacus (pédophilie). Il serait intéressant de savoir à quelle époque Hans de Belder était à Vienne.

Pour information :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTNycS8bf0c

Madsen: Diplomat pedophilia is widespread

Mise en ligne le 2 sept. 2009

Wayne Madsen, investigative journalist, says that the recent arrest of 3 American men in Vietnam for engaging in sex with children is only the tip of the iceberg.

Sur Wayne Madsen :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Madsen

Sachant cela, voir

http://redactednews.blogspot.be/2009/12/cia-involved-in-child-sex-trade-since.html

Wednesday, December 30, 2009

CIA Involved in Child Sex Trade Since 1978

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http://www.apnewsarchive.com/1989/Japanese-Businessman-Kidnapped-in-Laos/id-f69c8e4831a758b157464c6848d6f5c9

Japanese Businessman Kidnapped in Laos

TETSUO JIMBO , Associated Press

Mar. 1, 1989 8:40 AM ET

TOKYO (AP) _ Four gunmen kidnapped a Japanese businessman in Vientiane, Laos, early today after breaking into his home and tying up his wife and two maids, government officials said.

Yoshiaki Asao, 61, branch manager of Mitsui and Co.'s Vientiane office, was abducted, a company spokesman quoted Asao's wife as saying.

Goverment sources said four men participated in the kidnapping, none of them Japanese.

The company spokesman, Shuzo Uematsu, said no one has claimed responsibility, nor had the company received any threats beforehand.

At a news conference at Mitsui's Tokyo office, Uematsu said the company contacted Asao's wife, Michiko, and confirmed the kidnapping, but communication was too poor to learn details.

Government sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said Mrs. Asao and the two maids were not injured.

It was the second kidnapping of an overseas Mitsui executive in three years.

Nobuyuki Wakaoji, the company's Manila branch manager, was kidnapped in the Philippines in November 1986 and released in March 1987. The company reportedly paid a ransom for his release.

Last year, police said the Japanese Red Army, a terrorist organization, had kidnapped Wakaoji.

In the past four years, at least four Japanese have been abducted abroad, including Wakaoji.

Japan established diplomatic relations with Laos in 1976 and has donated more development aid to Laos than other Western countries. In fiscal 1987, Japanese aid to Laos reached $13.7 million.

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http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1370&dat=19890302&id=fI8VAAAAIBAJ&sjid=awsEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4469,217097

Manila Standard - 2 mars 1989





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http://articles.latimes.com/keyword/kidnapings-thailand

NEWS

Thai Police Rescue Kidnaped Japanese

March 10, 1989 | From United Press International

Thai police stormed a jungle hide-out along the Mekong River, 325 miles northeast of Bangkok, and rescued a kidnaped Japanese businessman after a gun battle that left two Laotian kidnapers dead, authorities said Thursday. The hostage, Yoshiaki Asao, 61, head of the Japanese trading company Mitsui and Co. in Laos, was abducted from his house in the Laotian capital of Vientiane before dawn March 1 and taken across the border to the hide-out.

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(avec la prudence nécessaire quand il est question de Larouche ...)

http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/1989/eirv16n22-19890526/eirv16n22-19890526_058-international_intelligence.pdf







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http://fr.scribd.com/doc/94780977/Raids-Jimmy-le-Belge

Raids n°40  -  septembre 1989





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The Terrorist List
Par Edward F. Mickolus,Susan L. Simmons







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Kith and kin politics: the relationship between Laos and Thailand
Mayurī Ngaosīvat, Pheuiphanh Ngaosyvathn

Journal of Contemporary Asia Publishers, 1994 - 137 pages

http://www.nambla.org/

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association

Pour en revenir à Vogeleer, j'ai pu constater que dans les années 80, Vogeleer utilisait son propre papier à en-têtes dans ses échanges avec les groupes armés laotiens. Ce genre de documents précisait notamment son adresse à Udonthani; il se présentait comme un conseiller militaire ("military adviser") avec le grade de "Lieutenant-Colonel". Des emblèmes et insignes étaient visibles dans les en-têtes (les mêmes que ceux des "Freedom Fighter Forces" , notamment celui inspiré du MACV-SOG).

J'en profite pour rappeler que Vogeleer était capable de travailler plus ou moins simultanément avec des groupes rivaux (celui de PKH et celui de Vang Pao). Dans certains cas il était payé, dans d'autres non.

Vogeleer a aussi rencontré un certain Richard L. Holm qui connaissait bien les Hmongs.

Il en est beaucoup question sur le fil de discussion relatif à Léon-François Deferm.

Richard L. Holm a été chef de station CIA à Bruxelles à partir de l'été 1985, alors que James Pavitt était chef de station CIA à Luxembourg. Dans son livre, Richard L. Holm parle de Van Calster (SDRA).

On peut rappeler que l'attaque du Delhaize de Braine l'Alleud a eu lieu le 27 septembre 1985 et celle de Alost a eu lieu en novembre 1985.


Une autre personne qui a été active au Laos : Richard McGarrah Helms

http://www.theguardian.com/news/2002/oct/24/guardianobituaries.haroldjackson

(...)  President Lyndon Johnson appointed Admiral William Raborn, a fellow Texan, head of the CIA. Helms was made Raborn's deputy but, when Raborn quickly demonstrated that he was wholly out of his depth, Helms assumed effective control.

He began to make some of the crucial decisions about Vietnam which were to haunt America for a decade. One was to enlarge the area of conflict through the secret creation in neighbouring Laos of a vast army of Meo tribesmen, charged with attacking North Vietnamese supply columns moving down the Ho Chi Minh trail. Another was the organisation of South Vietnamese counter-terror teams, which soon acquired a fearsome reputation for arbitrary brutality.  (...)


http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Helms

(...)  Nixon considère Helms comme étant déloyal et ne reconduit pas mandat en 1973. Helms sert de 1973 à 1976 comme ambassadeur des États-Unis en Iran.

Pendant cette période, une commission d'enquête américaine tente de déterminer la responsabilité de différentes parties dans une tentative, téléguidée depuis les États-Unis, de mettre fin à un régime démocratique au Chili en 1973. Helms est interrogé par des membres du congrès américain. Il apparaît que ses réponses sur le rôle de la CIA sont fausses. En conséquence, il est poursuivi et condamné en 1977 à deux ans de prison avec sursis (suspended sentence en anglais) et une amende de 2 000 dollars. Son amende a été payée par des amis de la CIA.

En 1983, le président Ronald Reagan attribua à Helms la National Security Medal (en français Médaille de sécurité nationale).

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D'après les renseignements que j'ai obtenus, Richard L. Holm a aidé les Hmongs du Laos "en coulisse" vers 1975.

Il a aussi agi comme "lobbyiste" pour obtenir ce qui suit :

http://library.uwb.edu/guides/usimmigration/2000_hmong_veterans_naturalization_act.html

2000 Hmong Veterans' Naturalization Act (An act to facilitate the naturalization of aliens who served with special guerilla units or irregular forces in Laos)

D'après la même source, il a eu des contacts (une rencontre ?) avec Guillaume Vogeleer.

Par ailleurs, Richard L. Holm connaissait "Tony Poe" (il en parle dans son livre).

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Il est question de Richard L. Holm et de ses ennuis à Paris dans le livre suivant :

The C I Desk: FBI and CIA Counterintelligence As Seen from My Cubicle
Par Christopher Lynch

(en partie sur GoogleBook)

Avec un peu de patience, nous pourrons regarder ce qui suit :

http://contributorfilms.com/?page_id=49





La question est importante et mérite d'être approfondie parce que Richard L. Holm est arrivé à Bruxelles (et à Waterloo) en été 1985, avant les attaques de Braine l'Alleud et de Alost. Il a bien entendu eu un peu de temps pour se préparer à son rôle de "Chief of Station". A ce moment, James Pavitt était Chief of Station à Luxembourg (1983 - 1986).

Dans son livre, Richard L. Holm ne donne pas le nom de son prédecesseur à Bruxelles mais ce dernier ne semblait pas aimé par ses subordonnés.

Il ne faut pas oublier que John Singlaub (qui s'est rendu à Luxembourg) connaissait aussi Guillaume Vogeleer. De même pour Stefano delle Chiaie. Les liens entre John Singlaub et Robert Close (président de l'IEPS) sont clairs. Il faudrait faire une ligne de temps complète pour tout cela ... mais il y a de quoi se poser des questions.

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Voir les pages 13 à 19 du document suivant :

http://www.vieillestiges.be/files/vtb-magazines/4-2007.pdf





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Si vous vous intéressez aux activités de Holm en Belgique, il y a peut-être des renseignements dans les écrits de Tennent “Pete” H. Bagley (qui vit aujourd'hui à Bruxelles). En revanche, attendez-vous à ce que Bagley ait tout filtré soigneusement. A l'opposé de "whistleblowers" (lanceurs d'alerte) et dissidents comme McGehee, Agee ou Stockwell, les individus comme Bagley et Holm semblent n'avoir aucun doute sur le bien-fondé de leurs activités passées dans la CIA, et ne sont absolument pas disposés à critiquer leurs anciens employeurs. C'est une des raisons pour laquelle l'Agence n'arrête pas de les encenser.

"... l'Agence n'arrête pas de les encenser."


http://www.lignet.com/ArticleAnalysis/Richard-Holm--Inexcusable-Behavior-by-US-Governmen

http://www.north-by-north-east.com/12_04_1.asp.htm





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Voir aussi :

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/vol47no1/article01.html

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/winter99-00/art2.html

Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA
Par Tim Weiner

Sur Richard Holm, voir aussi

http://intellit.muskingum.edu/alpha_folder/H_folder/holm_r.html

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Pour information :

Guillaume Vogeleer est très probablement arrivé au Congo en 1964.

L'accident de Richard Holm au Congo date du 17 février 1965.

http://www.spymuseum.org/multimedia/spycast/episode/dick-holm-the-perils-and-rewards-of-a-life-in-the-cia-part-1/

Dick Holm: the Perils and Rewards of a Life in the CIA, Part 1

Monday, May 14, 2012

Today Peter starts a conversation with Dick Holm, a legendary CIA operations officer, who has served all over the world.Dick, the author of The Craft We Chose: My Life in the CIA, talks about the importance of intelligence and reveals the terrible price that he paid for serving his country as a young officer in the Congo in the 1960s.

http://www.spymuseum.org/multimedia/spycast/episode/dick-holm-the-perils-and-rewards-of-a-life-in-the-cia-part-2/

Dick Holm: the Perils and Rewards of a Life in the CIA, Part 2

Friday, June 01, 2012

Peter continues his discussion with legendary case officer Dick Holm, the author of The Craft We Chose: My Life in the CIA. Holm discusses several highlights and low points of his career.Learn about his work with Belgian intelligence in thwarting a Belgian Air Force officer who was spying for Russia and his role in the embarrassing "spy flap" when he was the CIA chief in Paris.

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/03/13/world/cia-confirms-blunders-during-economic-spying-on-france.html

C.I.A. Confirms Blunders During Economic Spying on France

By TIM WEINER

Published: March 13, 1996

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