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Gen. Fernand Beaurir



Source(s): 1979 Pinon Affair; Maud Sarr (not very reliable, but interestingly mentioned together with Paul Vanden Boeynants and Jean Depretre, who have been accused by other sources as well); Pol Postal (a witness who worked at Institut Dechamps (a private college/university preparatory school for law students). Told how young girls of Institut Dechamps maintained sexual relationships with General Beaurir, how this general abused his owned daughter and how he forced his daughter into supplying him and some of his associates with other girls (PV 150.259/97)).

Gendarme General. Educated to become a Gendarme officer during WWII. After taking a Nazi-inspired oath of allegiance, he became a Gendarme officer in Walloon in a unit that fought the resistance. Briefly arrested in the aftermath of WWII for collaboration, but soon released. Eventually rose to corps commandant, the highest position in the Gendarmerie. In 1979, Beaurir's name came up during a search of the homes of Lydia Montaricourt and Fortunato Israel, who ran a prostitution network for high level officials, up to Belgian and Saudi princes, and employees of Adnan Khashoggi. Prosecutor of the king Jean Depretre covered up the whole investigation. May 16, 1997, Tony Van Parys, head of the Gang Commission, to De Standaard about the connections of Fortunato Israel and her follow-up Lydia Montaricourt: "Among their contacts were very highly placed persons: the commandant of the gendarmerie lieutenant-general Fernand Beaurir, arms dealer Roger Boas, and through the latter Paul Vanden Boeynants." These three men all have been accused of child abuse. Became a close associate of Paul Vanden Boeynants and Baron Benoit de Bonvoisin who ran the post-WWII fascist underground in Belgium. Became head of the National Bureau for Drugs (NBD) of the Gendarmerie in 1978. The NBD was created by Paul Vanden Boeynants and General Leon Fernand Francois (invited by the US Army's CID in 1969; educated by the DEA; received by President Nixon; secretary of the International Drug Enforcement Association; founded the gendarmerie's National Bureau for Drugs (NBD) in the 1972-1975 period with Paul "VdB" Vanden Boeynants and CIA support, and became the NBD's initial head; always present at the border when a new large shipment of marihuana and cocaine of VdB's company was smuggled into Belgium; leading member of the subversive and fascist Group G, together with DEA agent Frank Eaton; provided the CIA chief in Belgium with intelligence about leftists and other dissident groups; accused in 1990 by prostitute Maud Sarr of involvement in orgies with minors, together with Paul Vanden Boeynants and Jean Depretre (both accused by other sources as well); one of his successors at the NBD, general Beaurir was also accused of pedophilia and was also part of the CEPIC circle) in the 1972-1975 period. The CIA provided training for the NBD and delivered many, often questionable, informants. In return General Francois would give the CIA chief in Belgium intelligence about leftists and other dissident groups. In 1979, in the Pinon Affair which never became an affair, General Beaurir was named as a person who attended parties at which underaged girls were abused. Others named were Paul Vanden Boeynants, Guy Mathot, Ado Blaton and Prince Albert (later King Albert II). In 1979, a BOB officer began reporting on corruption in the NBD and how top level officers were involved in the drug trade themselves. Internally, nothing was done by Beaurir, or his good friend General Robert "Bob" Bernaert, who was head of the Internal Affairs department of the Gendarmerie (not to mention a member of the Marnixring, a hard-right Dutch-Flemish counterpart to the Rotary and Lion's Club). This led the BOB officer to inform the Justice Department after which all hell broke loose. Francois was arrested in January 1980 and a large public investigation into the NBD began. While interrogating Francois and his NBD associates, two chief investigators, Major Herman Vernaillen and BOB adjutant Guy Goffinon, were told how they couldn't touch their suspects because they were protected by Paul Vanden Boeynants and Baron Benoit de Bonvoisin. On top of that, General Beaurir and other senior Gendarme officers began sabotaging the investigation. In late 1981, Vernaillen and Goffinon received a tip that huge quantities of drugs, hidden inside frozen meat, were smuggled into Belgium. The firm responsible, Boucheries Ghysels, turned out to be chaired and partly-owned by Paul Vanden Boeynants, while General Francois was always present at the border when a new large shipment of marijuana and cocaine of this company was smuggled into Belgium. That these drug transports were going on was already known for three years, but they were never intercepted. It is known that Vanden Boeynants contacted General Beaurir in mid November 1981 to inquire about the drug investigation into his company, although the details of this conversation have remained a closely-guarded secret. Around this time, Goffinon advised the Justice Department to arrest Paul Vanden Boeynants and place drug trafficking charges against him. No action was undertaken. On October 12, 1981, Goffinon survived an assassination attempt. A bomb went off in his car while three other officers were driving in it. Fortunately, only about a third of the bomb went off. The person who had constructed the ignition mechanism, a US fighter pilot named Jean-Francois Buslik, turned out to be a good friend of both US narcotics specialist Frank Eaton and Madani Bouhouche. Vernaillen survived an assassination attempt on October 26 although he, and especially his wife, were badly shot up. Evidence in this failed assassination strongly pointed to involvement of Paul Vanden Boeynants, Jean-Francois Buslik, Madani Bouhouche and the counter-terrorist branch of the Gendarmerie, but as usual no arrests were made. Interesting detail: Vernaillen almost certainly escaped an assassination attempt several hours earlier, because he was riding along in the car of Gendarme officer Joris Vivelle, instead of a regular Gendarme car. Vivelle's son was kidnapped in southern France in 1989 (probably during the summer vacation from June to August) and found back badly mutilated. Several months earlier, in May 1989, Herman Vernaillen, now a Lt.-Col. in the Gendarmerie, supplied Andre Bourgeois, head of an investigating committee, with names of people who back in 1980 were trying to destabilize the Belgium state. This was done in order to bring in a more hard-right government. The names given by Vernaillen included Paul Vanden Boeynants, Jose Desmarets (former PSC vice premier) Jean Militis (special forces Col.; CEPIC; PRL member of parliament), Lt.-Gen. Vivario (Army chief of staff) prosecutor Raymond Charles and General Beaurir. Vernaillen had been given these names in 1980 by Leon Finne, a former CEPIC member and banker who used to be involved in illegal arms sales. Coincidentally, Finne was assassinated by the Gang of Nijvel on September 27, 1985. On November 29, 1989, adjutant Guy Dussart of the BOB in Waverse testified in a closed session of the parliamentary investigating committee that he was approached in December 1985 - March 1986 by two senior high nobility figures who belonged to Opus Dei. They explained to him that at least 9 important members of Opus Dei in addition to several officers and generals of the Gendarmerie and the army were working to destabilize the country and as a result transfer all power to the king. Dussart mentioned the same names as Lieutenant-Colonel Vernaillen, including General Beaurir and Paul Vanden Boeynants (both belonged to Opus Dei). Dussart also said that the aborted 1973 coup, named "l'Ordre Blue", involved some of the same players as the coup prepared in the 1980s. In 1988, examining magistrate Jean-Michel Schlicker, tasked with investigating the Gang of Nijvel, stated that the investigation into the clientele of the Trois Canards inn had been closed down prematurely, because General Beaurir, not to mention Paul Vanden Boeynants, frequently went to eat there. Les Trois Canards had been robbed by Gang of Nijvel members in October 1983. Before leaving, the two robbers took the owner, CEPIC member Jacques van Camp, with them to the parking lot and shot him dead. The bullet that killed van Camp turned out to have come from a Gendarme gun stolen during a Gang of Nijvel robbery two weeks earlier. Interestingly, van Camp was said to have been a good friend of Jacques Fourez and Elise Dewit, CEPIC members and sexclub managers who often frequented his restaurant. Jacques Fourez, Elise Dewit and Van Camp were all believed to have been involved with the so called Pink Ballets (orgies where children were abused). Jacques Fourez and Elise Dewit had been executed by the Gang of Nijvel two weeks before, during the robbery where the gun was stolen that would later kill van Camp. According to X2, her pimp Oliver Castiaux knew Jacques van Camp well. According to Pol Postal, a witness who worked at Institut Dechamps (a private college/university preparatory school for law students), Jean-Paul Dumont (linked to child abuse by X1, X2 and Jacques Thoma), who apparently worked as a teacher at Institut Dechamps in 1981-1982, regularly went to the Trois Canards and attended the funeral of van Camp. Postal also told how young girls of Institut Dechamps maintained sexual relationships with General Beaurir, how this general abused his own daughter and how he forced his daughter into supplying him and some of his associates with other girls (PV 150.259/97). Beaurir is said to have been a member of Opus Dei.
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Baron Benoit de Bonvoisin


Source(s): X1 (One of her most violent abusers, together with Paul Vanden Boeynants and the Lippens brothers; central person in the child hunts); X2 (Present at sex parties in a castle near Eindhoven in the Netherlands, together with Jean-Paul Dumont and many others; present at smaller child abuse parties where girls were tortured in Paul Bourlee's residence at Faulx-Les-Tombes (very close to the castle of de Bonvoisin); went to Le Mirano where he was involved in child abuse parties where cocaine was distributed; went hunting with a number of others during which underaged girls were raped and abused).

Added in 2008: Declaration of an anonymous witness to the Belgian Judiciary, October 12, 199x, (copy for Neufchateau cell): "Event: Witness her husband, who has passed away, received an invitation for a party at a castle in the neighborhood of ATH. Former minister DESCHAMPS [sic] and Baron de BONVOISIN were present there. At a certain point children of approximately 10 years of age were brought in. These were then abused by the guests present. The husband of the witness didn’t know this would happen and left the place because he didn’t want to participate in it … Date of the event: About 4 years ago."; Declaration of Dany Lefrant to the Belgian Judiciary, October 13, 199x, (copy for Neufchateau cell): "Pink Ballets [normally refers to underaged children being present] with STIERS Steeve, VAN DEN BROECK Franck, the Baron Bonvoisin, SPITAELS Guy, Frans Reyneers, bar le cancan [the bar where Elio Di Rupo, according to Cancan's owners, went to pick up students]. This happened more or less 7 years ago."; Declaration of Danielle Lagae to the Belgian Judiciary, October 16, 199x, (copy for Neufchateau cell): "Victim of sexual abuse (contacts) at the age of - 5, by Jean Jacques ROLAND... - 12, by Jean Marie HUCHET... [mentions several names, including "Mr. DEBONVOISIN"]... the father knew and regularly met these people... Happened in the 1970s.";

In the second half of the 16th century, Jehan de Bonvoisin received land from his father, a descendant of an ancient House of landed gentry. From the outset of the 17th century, the family developed the textile industry in the region of Verviers, where its members also held positions in public office.

Baron Pierre de Bonvoisin (1903-1982) was the father of Benoît. Pierre was an Economics professor at the University of Louvain. Married Elizabeth Galopin, a granddaughter of Alexandre Galopin (1879-1944). Before and during WWII, Galopin was head of Union Minière in Congo and Société Générale de Belgique. King Leopold III had chosen Galopin to reorganize the Belgian economy after the German invasion. The official story goes that several months before the allies invaded Normandy, Galopin gained access to a list of industrialists who worked with the Nazis. On February 28, 1944, he was assassinated. Pierre was a director of Société Générale de Belgique from 1951 to 1962. In 1954, Pierre de Bonvoisin attended the first Bilderberg Conference along with Paul van Zeeland (son-in-law has been named a key plotter in the aborted 1973 fascist coup in Belgium, together with an agent of Vanden Boeynants and Benoit de Bonvoisin, Army Major Jean Bougerol). He attended several other Bilderberg conferences. Chairman of the Banque du Congo Belge. President of the Belgian International Chamber of Commerce. Co-founder of l'Institut International d'Etudes Bancaires (IIEB), which is part of IMF and still meeting today. Director of Companhia de Diamantes de Angola (Diamang), which had a monopoly on the diamond supply of Angola. Others on the board of Diamang were Harry Oppenheimer of Anglo-American and other people from De Beers. Chairman of the Belgian League of Multiple Sclerosis. One of the counsellors of King Baudouin.

Benoit was born in 1939. Graduated in philosophy from the University of Louvain. Benoit's sister Marie-Cecile married Count Herve d'Ursel (b. 1930) in 1959. Benoit's other sister Marie Francoise de Bonvoisin (b. 1949) married Prince Bernard de Merode (b. 1949) in 1974 and became a princess. The d'Ursel (especially another branch) and de Merode families are among the most noble families in Belgium. Both families, not unlike de Bonvoisin himself, have been implicated in child abuse networks, just as a large number of their associates. Bernard de Merode works for a firm these days which is headed by two senior retired MI5 officials. Benoit was called upon by the Belgian Minister for the Middle Classes, Paul Vanden Boeynants, in the early 1960s, to realign the Social Christian Party (PSC). Involved with the World Anti-Communist League (WACL). Named as a member of Opus Dei, just as Paul Vanden Boeynants. One of the primary founders of the aristocratic and fascist Cercle des Nations in 1969, together with Paul Vanden Boeynants and Paul Vankerkhoven (close associate of Otto von Habsburg; CEPIC; founded the Belgian branch of the WACL). Jean Violet (connected to the Synarchist Movement of Empire through the fascist CSAR; Opus Dei; French intelligence; close associate of Otto von Habsburg; founder of the international private intelligence group Le Cercle, which was visited by CIA directors and other virulent anti-communist US covert warfare experts) became one of the few French members of Cercle des Nations. Financed the fascist Nouvel Europe Magazine (NEM), which was founded in 1971 and counted the involvement of Paul Vanden Boeynants. Around this magazine a bunch of fascist NEM-Clubs were set up, starting in 1972, which began preparing a coup. Together with Paul Vanden Boeynants, Baron de Bonvoisin was a key founder of CEPIC in 1972, which was a continuation of Mouvement des Independants et des Cadres (MIC), founded in 1955 by Vanden Boeynants. It had the same purpose of neutralizing the PSC's pro-labour aspects and was highly fascist. Political advisor to Paul Vanden Boeynants in the 1970s. With Paul Vanden Boeynants involved in the aborted 1973 coup. Set up the fascist Parti des Forces Nouvelles in the 1974-1975 period, together with Emile Lecerf and first chairman Albert Lambert. It became the political front of his private militia Front de la Jeunesse, which was founded in the same period. The first congress of Forces Nouvelles was held at the CEPIC headquarters on November 23, 1975. Around the same time Lecerf organized a meeting at the castle of Baron de Bonvoisin in which a number of fascist leaders from Europe were brought together. Represented were the MSI from Italy, the French branch of Parti des Forces Nouvelles, the National Front from Britain and Fuerza Nueva from Spain. Francis Dossogne, head of Front de la Jeunesses by this time, also attended. Arranged a meeting of European Nazis and other fascists in his castle in late 1975. Treasurer of CEPIC since 1976. Had his own company, Societe de Promotion & Distribution Generales NV (PDG), which shared the same building with CEPIC headquarters (actually two buildings, but a corridor was built between them). The main investors in PDG were Charly De Pauw, Ado Blaton, and other businessmen involved in building the World Trade Center and Parc Savoy in Brussels. In return for their investments PDG created fake invoices for them. These people, together with King Albert II (then Prince), Fortunato Israel (ran a European-wide prostitution ring; mistress of Roger Boas), and Roger Boas (owner of arms manufacturer/aerospace company ASCO, which allegedly harbored a child torture and abuse studio), were also involved in the Eurosystem Hospitalier deal in Saudi-Arabia, which blew up in 1979 due the hundreds of millions of dollars used for briberies and commissions. De Bonvoisin arranged the takeover of Bâtiments et Ponts, Ado Blaton's company that was primarily responsible for building Parc Savoy, by the French firm Générale des Eaux in 1988. Shareholder of Parc Savoy, which is where Cercle des Nations was located. Benoit was one of the key persons in financing, through CEPIC and PDG, the fascist Front de la Jeunesse. Front de la Jeunesse was the private militia of the in 1974 established Parti des Forces Nouvelles. It was headed by Francis Dossogne (paid "advisor" to Baron de Bonvoisin; took his orders from Army Intelligence major Jean Bougerol, head of PIO and personally picked by Vanden Boeynants and Baron de Bonvoisin; another "private detective"; director of CIDEP, publisher of the fascist NEM magazine; good friend Jean Bultot, who is closely tied to the Gang of Nijvel; gave permission to Paul Latinus in '78-'79 to reorganize the Brussels department of Front de la Jeunesse; according to Martial Lekeu, Dossogne, Latinus and DEA agent Frank Eaton were leaders of Group G, a Nazi-inspired NATO-sanctioned parallel organization within the Gendarmerie). Members of Front de la Jeunesse included Paul Latinus (Nazi; recruited by the DIA in 1967, age 17; trained by NATO; reserve lieutenant with the Air Force; paid informant of State Security; recruited as an intelligence agent by PIO in 1977; recommended everywhere by the CEPIC leadership; member Front de la Jeunesse; founder Westland New Post in 1981; recruited as a police informant by the questionable Georges Marnette; suicided in 1984) and Marcel Barbier (Wackenhut employee since before 1981; recruited as a guard at European Institute of Management (EIM) around 1981, the follow-up of the shady Belgium military-intelligence unit PIO, since 1981 headed by Douglas MacArthur II; co-founded Westland New Post (WNP) with Latinus in 1981, and became head of its security section (seen as Latinus' right-hand); when police searched Barbier's apartment for unrelated reasons, they found it filled with Nazi symbols and literature, weapons, papers that allowed him entrance to the barracks of the general staff of the Army in Evere, and a whole batch of secret NATO documents; his lawyer at that point became Vincent vanden Bossche, who represented other fascists and was a member of Cercle des Nations and Ordre du Rouvre, was named as someone involved in the cover-up of the Pinon child abuse affair; convicted in 1987 for a double WNP-organized murder, in which Barbier had slit the victim's throats). Front de la Jeunesse had secret paramilitary training camps in the Ardennes. Among the instructors of the training camps were Madani Bouhouche (Nazi; BOB officer until 1983; caught spying on his colleagues; leading figure in the Practical Shooting Association; friend and partner-in-crime of such men as Christian Amory, Bob Beyer and Jean Bultot; went to the Jonathan; convicted criminal and murderer; member Group G and involved in actions to destabilize Belgium; member Westland New Post) and Jean-Francis Calmette (joined the terrorist OAS, which tried to assassinate de Gaulle and destabilize Algeria; director of Wackenhut Belgium until 1981 (since 1977 allowed in Belgium; does dirty black ops for CIA, DEA, etc.; had to leave Belgium in early 1980s after some of its guards were accused of luring immigrant children into basements and beating them up), and recruited Marcel Barbier and Eric Lammers; set up the Nazi militia 'Nouvelle Sparte'; full-contact karate teacher and taught this sport to Group Diana of the Gendarmerie; all round security expert; secretly hired mercenaries for South-Africa and hired a farm to train them; together with Christian Amory associated with the mercenary firm Contact in Brussels; went to the Jonathan; instructor at the secret fascist training camps of Front de la Jeunesse in the Ardennes, which were protected by NATO and overseen by DIA-NATO agent Paul Latinus, another fascist; member of Westland New Post (WNP), headed by Latinus; head of security of the annual ball of the PSC in 1980, headed by Paul Vanden Boeynants at the time; manager of the Brussels sports club BIBKA). Together with Paul Vanden Boeynants, de Bonvoisin founded the Army's Public Information Office in 1974, a fascist "personal" Military Intelligence group that spied on journalists that had a negative attitude towards the Vanden Boeynants gang. It also infiltrated many right-wing organizations and local templar orders to push for pro-military-industrial complex policies. De Bonvoisin and Vanden Boeynants made sure that major Jean-Marie Bougerol (SDRA Military Intelligence officer; crucial figure in the aborted 1973 coup; became head of PIO in 1974 with the blessing of Paul Vanden Boeynants and Baron de Bonvoisin; gave orders to Francis Dossogne, head of Front de la Jeunesse and Group G, and an employee of de Bonvoisin; traveled with CEPIC director Bernard Mercier in 1975 to Spain to attend the funeral of Franco; editor in chief of INFOREP 1976-1978, an anti-communist propaganda magazine aimed at party leaders; spoke at NEM-Clubs; member of the Confrerie des Hospitaliers de Notre-Dame d'Aulne, together with co-PIO agent Commandant Claude Dery) became head of PIO, and both men cold regularly be found at PIO headquarters. Lieutenant-general Pierre Roman, chief of staff of the Belgian Army, was Bougerol's superior and another political ally of de Bonvoisin and Vanden Boeynants. Bougerol gave orders to Francis Dossogne, an employee of de Bonvoisin and leader of the fascist Front de la Jeunesse and the subversive Group G. The latter was a Nazi-inspired NATO-sanctioned parallel organization which recruited from the Gendarmerie, although it was headed by leading members of private groups as Front de la Jeunesse and WNP. Similar cells were located in the Army, the Universite Libre de Bruxelles (ULB), the Royal Military School, the Mobile Legion, the Special Intervention Squadron (Diana Group), the narcotics section of the BOB and different other branches of the Gendarmerie. Most members of a particular cell did not know about the others and Nazi-fascist infiltration could have been much larger than the estimated 60 recruits. A 1976 report from BOB officer Roger Tratsaert stated that there was a silent right wing coup in preparation in Belgium, which was centered on Nouvelle Europe Magazine and (ex-) officers from the military. Major Jean Bougerol, sponsored by lieutenant-general Roman, Paul Vanden Boeynants and Baron de Bonvoisin, was a coordinating figure in this plot (including the aborted 1973 coup), just as Count Arnould de Briey, a public official who was married to co-Bilderberg founder Paul van Zeeland's daughter. In May 1989, Lt.-Col. Herman Vernaillen of the Gendarmerie supplied Andre Bourgeois, head of an investigating committee, with names of people who back in 1980 were trying to destabilize the Belgium state. This was done in order to bring in a more hard-right government. The names given by Vernaillen included Paul Vanden Boeynants and General Beaurir. Vernaillen had been given these names in 1980 by Leon Finne, a former CEPIC member and banker who used to be involved in illegal arms sales. Coincidentally, Finne was assassinated by the Gang of Nijvel on September 27, 1985. On November 29, 1989, adjutant Guy Dussart of the BOB in Waverse testified in a closed session of the parliamentary investigating committee that he was approached in December 1985 - March 1986 by two senior high nobility figures who belonged to Opus Dei. They explained to him that at least 9 important members of Opus Dei (which likely included de Bonvoisin) in addition to several officers and generals of the Gendarmerie and the army were working to destabilize the country and as a result transfer all power to the king. Dussart mentioned the same names as Lieutenant-Colonel Vernaillen, including General Beaurir and Paul Vanden Boeynants (both belonged to Opus Dei). Dussart also said that the aborted 1973 coup, named "l'Ordre Blue", involved some of the same players as the coup prepared in the 1980s. There also was a report that the conspirators had organized several meetings at Castle Dongelberg, owned by Opus Dei. X2 later claimed that children had been abused at Dongelberg, while Nathalie W. also mentioned the castle in her testimony. CEPIC disbanded in 1981, soon after their connections to the NEM-clubs and Front de la Jeunesse were found out about. Excerpts of the 1981 confidential State Security memo (translated from Dutch): "It was determined that certain members of the board of the C.E.P.I.C. (x) in the past have lent their cooperated to the publication and the editorial office of NEM, were part of the NEM-clubs of the F.J. [Front de la Jeunesse] and maintained contact with board members or supporters of the two latter mentioned groups. Amongst others, it concerns: Jean Breydel, secretary-general of the C.E.P.I.C., Benoit de Bonvoisin, treasurer of the C.E.P.I.C., Joseph (Jo) Gerard, Paul Van Kerkhoven, Joseph Franz and Bernard Mercier. The board, the administration and the editorial office of the NEM, which has been published under this name since 1971 by the "Compagnie Internationale des Editions Populaires" (C.I.D.E.P.), is located at no. 5 of the Dekenstraat in Brussels... Furthermore, at this address was located the secretariat of the 1972 founded NEM-clubs, as well, until 1978, the seat of F.J.... The seat of C.E.P.I.C. is located at no. 39 of the Belliardstraat in Brussels. This building also contains the Belliard auditorium, the seat of "Mouvement d'Action pour l'Unite Europeenne" (xx), just as the offices of the "Societe de Promotion et de la Distribution Generale" (P.D.G.), supervised, through a go-between, by Benoit de Bonvoisin... The NEM is supported by Benoit de Bonvoisin, who pays the rent of the in the Dekensstraat located offices and hires the editor in chief as an advisor... Francis Dossogne, head of the F.J., was paid in the same way, until he left the NEM. The partnership P.D.G., and consequently de Bonvoisin, through a go-between finances the magazine "INFOREP" which claims to be a "daily paper for party leaders", but in reality is a bi-language magazine with strong anti-communist leanings. From 1976 to 1978 its editor in chief was Major Jean Bougerol, a higher career officer working for the headquarters of the domestic armed forces. Jean Bougerol has spoken at lectures organized by the NEM-clubs... This officer, who keeps in close contact with Bernard Mercier, board member of the C.E.P.I.C., was mentioned as one of the organizers of the transport from Antwerp to the seat of the C.E.P.I.C. in Brussels of a wanted neo-nazi terrorist. This person had to be taken by Bernard Mercier to a domain in the Ardennes belonging to de Bonvoisin and subsequently to France. The German was intercepted by State Security during the trip from Antwerp to Brussels... According to unverifiable sources the F.J. would have approached several foreign governments and opposition-movements for financial support." Since Albert Raes, head of State Security, was largely responsible for the release of this memo, he was immediately attacked by de Bonvoisin and associates, a trend that would continue over the decades. On February 6, 1995, Raes explained at the VTM-broadcast 'Telefacts': "... according to some it [his persecution] might have something to do with arms trade, arms shipping, arms theft, arms smuggling, and the whole mess that can be found around weapons. [confirms he is referring to VdB and Baron Benoît de Bonvoisin]" On www.baronbenoitdebonvoisin.com Benoit is supposed to give us his personal history. Instead, he uses two thirds of his own biography to bash his opponents. He does, however, give some interesting insights: "Besides his political role within the CEPIC, Benoît de Bonvoisin exerted an influence in Zaïre [Congo; Belgian colony until 1960], firstly in the struggle against communism and secondly attempting to curb corruption, with friends from the American administration. Van den Boeynants assigned General Roman and Benoît on a number of missions in order to counteract the Soviet influence in Belgium... Through a number of people with whom he was in touch in the United States and France, B. de B felt it necessary to try and get the Belgian intelligence services under democratic control. He considered it urgent, since this was the only secret service to escape control... [bashes Albert Raes, head of Belgian intelligence] Largely because of B. de B, Raes was forced to resign in 1990... B. de Bonvoisin was highly regarded by the head of the French secret services, Alexandre de Marenches, but the latter had no esteem for Albert Raes... [bashes Albert Raes a bit more]... he [Raes] tried to associate B. de B with the extreme right, a trick often used by the Soviet secret services." On the same page: "Professor Lode Van Outrive concluded that : " Several times the Americans tried to convince Raes to concentrate first and foremost on the Eastern block countries whereas he seemed more interested in targeting extreme right wing movements. This clearly bothered the Americans who got him to resign."" In 2003, Benoit and his brother Pierre were prosecuted by the Belgian authorities for having faked so called KGB documents. Benoit used these documents in 1995 to prove there was a vast left wing conspiracy aimed at discrediting him, which included many members of government. After the death of CEPIC in 1981, PIO was reorganized into the possibly even more influential European Institute of Management (EIM). Col. Rene Mayerus, a good friend of Major Jean Bougerol (the protege of de Bonvoisin and Vanden Boeynants and accused by X1 of being involved in the child abuse network) became administrative-director of EIM. Within 6 months of its founding, the new head of EIM became Douglas MacArthur II (born in 1909; Episcopalian; nephew of the famous general; ambassador to Paris 1938-1940; ambassador to the Fascist Vichy government 1940-1942; held in Nazi internment for 16 months after Petain broke off relations with the US in 1942; member General Eisenhower's SHAEF staff in 1944; ambassador to Italy 1944-1948; became chief of the State Department's Division of European Affairs in 1949; political advisor to SHAPE headquarters in France 1951-1952; counselor US Department State in Washington 1953-1957; member CFR from the 1950s to the late 1980s; ambassador to Japan in Tokyo 1957-1961; ambassador to Brussels 1961-1965; assistant secretary of state and head of the State Department's Bureau of Congressional Relations 1965-1967; ambassador to Austria 1967-1969; ambassador to Iran during the Shah's reign 1969-1972 (retired after evading a kidnapping attempt); independent international affairs consultant in Washington 1972-1997; director Banque Bruxelles Lambert; since 1981, chair of the European Institute of Management (EIM), a privatized fascist army intelligence group which tried to undermine the Belgian democratic process and appears to have been at the center of a child abuse, torture and murder ring; member of the editorial advisory board of The Washington Times since Sun Myung Moon founded it in 1982; chaired Moon's World Media Conference in Tokyo in the mid-1980s; openly supported the Women's Federation for World Peace when Moon founded it in 1987; founding chair of Sun Myung Moon-funded Panda Motor Corp in China since 1988, a company that went bankrupt within a few years (October 16, 1989, Daily Herald, 'Moon-backed Panda car drives into skepticism of auto industry'); his uncle Douglas MacArthur saved Moon during the invasion of Korea; big supporter of the UN's Temple of Understanding; died in 1997). In 1990, examining magistrate Freddy Troch reopened some of the Gang of Nijvel documents and began to look into its political connections. Two of the persons he became very interested in as a result were Frans Reyniers (Brussels police commissioner; assisted in the Gang of Nijvel investigation; later convicted criminal; regularly visited Les Atrébates and later The Dolo, Nihoul's favorite hangouts, for orgies, sometimes involving minors) and Baron de Bonvoisin. Troch was warned and subsequently kicked off the case by Melchior Wathelet, a violent child abuser together with Baron de Bonvoisin and Paul Vanden Boeynants, according to X1. Wathelet was also accused by another source. A good friend and frequent security consultant to Baron de Bonvoisin was André Moyen (both lived in Ardenne), a former senior member of both Belgian military intelligence and the Belgian Stay-Behind network. In November 1990, Moyen said that the Belgian stay-behind network was not only anti-communist, but that it fought subversion of the state in general. Has visited the Mirano, according to X2, where he was involved in child abuse parties with Paul Bourlee, Oliver Castiaux and others. Has been accused and convicted of a number of crimes in his career, but was later on always acquitted. In August or September 1996, de Bonvoisin began to interfere with the Dutroux investigation, undoubtedly because he had gotten wind of X-dossier witnesses implicating him in child abuse and torture networks. He was even mentioned as a central person in child hunts. X1 in PV 100.399, January 11, 1997: "Translation of a fax of X1 of January 6, 1997: She speaks of someone who judged to see if she was dangerous. It is about someone who prefers the violence: the sex is a dessert... He often went to hunt with VDB - he works at Sabena. He participated in the hunts on children... Tony brought her to a domain - there were 4 other girls (Marianne; Valerie; Catharine; Sonja)... [present:] VDB [Paul Vanden Boeynants] - person from Sabena - 4 Gd [gendarme officers] - de Bonvoisin. There was also the gamekeeper who raped the girls but did no more than that. Bonvoisin was the most dangerous - he had come to kill... The girls run into the woods and each time they are caught they have to remove a piece of clothing. X1 is forced by Bonvoisin to stay with him - she must choose and point out the girls... Bonvoisin forces X1 pull the trigger while telling her that if she misses she is shot. She fires on Sonja and kills her. Marianne is killed with a cross-bow. X1 is raped and brought back home." This text can easily be matched with: 1998, Regina Louf, 'Zwijgen is voor daders - De getuigenis van X1' ('Silence is for perpetrators - The testimony of X1'), p. 104: "He leaned against the pavilion, the other men stood laughing in a group drinking coffee. A sort of game-keeper kept two Sint-Hubertus dogs on a leash. I quickly counted them, about ten men... I knew the domain, with its sloping hills, the big pond a bit further, the woods and the rhododendron bushes. It didn't exactly comfort me to be taken out here... Silently I began to calculate how my chances were of getting out alive, and hope sank to my shoes. This would be a short hunting party, it still was far too light and the weather too nice to effectively hide yourself. And they looked like it was really serious... I looked at Jo [one of her regular and most violent abusers], he didn't smile, not even tried to interact with the group. He tensely looked back. The fear slowly crept up. This was serious... He [de Bonvoisin] had come to kill, the other men didn't play a role to me anymore, if he was sitting that unmoved he would do the most damage... The girls had to run into the woods, and each time they caught one, they had to take off a piece of clothing... I didn't have to play the game. He made me an accomplice by having me find these girls and pointing them out... When the girls had taken off all their clothes they started to aim. They shot next to them on purpose, hunting them up, and laughing about their fears. He came to stand behind me, readied his gun and helped me to aim it... 'If you miss we shoot you, if you hit you'll live,' he whispered in my ear, almost lovingly... [she hit]" His sister Marie-Cecile and brother-in-law Count Herve d'Ursel were also implicated in some of the more shocking aspects of the X-dossiers: 1999, Marie-Jeanne Van Heeswyck, Annemie Bulte and Douglas De Coninck, 'De X-dossiers', p. 248: "Present at the first of three sex parties she [X1] mentioned industrialists Y. and W., lawyer E., Annie Bouty, Michel Nihoul, Tony and trader in dogs from the region of Mechels. What she noticed about the villa, was a large pool and an impressive collection of model ships which were exhibited inside just about all over the place ["villa des bateaux" of Count Herve d'Ursel and Marie-Cecile de Bonvoisin d'Ursel]. The children were forced to watch a sort of snuff movie, in which, according to X1, two of her children were tortured. The purpose of the first night was an initiation. The adults wore SM clothing and butchered a goat and a rabbit in front of the eyes of the by then unclothed and tied up children. According to X1, the whole ritual had nothing to do with satanism and even less with bizarre sexual preferences of the adults - they hated this - but everything with a well thought-out method to condition the kids and to prevent that one of them would ever speak out. After all, stories about butchered goats, rabbits and men in black leather suits would not be believed by anyone. With 'Kristien' it went totally wrong, X1 said. She kept resisting, refused to accept what happened to her. X1 and Mieke, who had to force her to eat the heart of the freshly-butchered rabbit, tried to keep her silent - which didn't succeed." De Bonvoisin invited a number of Dutroux-Nihoul investigators to his castle. During this meeting he called up Michel Bourlet, head of the overall Dutroux-Nihoul investigation, to make an appointment with this person. Bourlet scheduled a meeting with the baron for the following day, but never had the intention to actually show up (which he indeed didn't). In December 1997, de Baron accused inspector De Baets, the interviewer of X1, who claimed to have been brutally tortured and raped by the baron and his friends, of having overstepped his authority in May 1990, while searching his castle during the CIDEP affair. Unfortunately for the baron, although De Baets was involved in that case, the actual search of the baron's house had been conducted by a colleague of De Baets. Other attempts to defame De Baets were undertaken by friends of the baron, not the least of them the earlier-mentioned Andre Moyen, but all of them turned out to be bogus. De Baets was already "under investigation" at that point for allegedly not having properly interviewed X1. He would be acquitted of these charges in 2000, but luckily for the de Bonvoisin that apparently was no reason to reopen the case of X1, X2 or any of the other victim-witnesses.
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Si la Golf de C.V. Camp était rouge puis repeinte ensuite en noir, quel intérêt de garder l'auto-collant 'I love Australia" ?
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Vous faites repeindre en noir le véhicule volé de Catherine Van Camp et vous gardez l'auto-collant !!!!!!! Vous en pensez quoi ?
1. Vous êtes un parfait imbécile,
2. Vous avez acheté le véhicule dans des conditions troubles et vous ne savez pas que l'auto-collant à de l'importance, Mais vous volez le véhicule et vous faites un acte délictueux. Gros problème !
Qui va me donner une bonne raison de ne pas considérer que nous avons affaire à des débiles profonds. Surtout qu'en plus, vous vous faites remarquer à au moins deux reprises. A Lobbes et quand vous avez une prise de bec à Waterloo.....
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Question : Comment repeindre une voiture volée pour éviter qu’elle soit repérée et trouver le moyen de garder l’auto-collant, plus de reconnaissable ?
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K a écrit:

l'autocollant était simplement sur la fenetre (arrière) je pense



on tout cas ,coller des stickers est un technique pour banaliser les voitures

c'est plus " du peuple" ,

c'est même très bizarre que que des gens ont remarqué cette voiture plusieures fois a Namur

elle devait être très mal peinte pour attirer l'oeuil

c'est pas le sticker qui a attiré l'attention , p.e , le comportement des occupants

il y a ici des messages qui disent qu cette voiture a ete vu ds un quartier d'étudiants a namur

avec témoignage puis retenu pr raison policière


A Woluwe aussi c'est les rues autour de université

on en connait d'autres qui aiment louer des chambres d'étudiants , non ?



Je ne partage pas votre point de vue K. Ce n'est pas le problème de savoir si la peinture a été bien réalisée ou non. Le problème, c'est l'auto-collant. Il ne fait pas "peuple". D'abord, Melle Van Camp est une bourgeoise, ensuite, il renvoie à un précédent voyage en Ausralie, rare à l'époque et pas à la portée de tout le monde financièrement. J'ajoute le le coeur était rouge, comme la couleur de la Glf, donc, harmonie des couleurs. Ce sticker est quand même plus que repérable ! Pour Van Deuren, des attaches vers Namur ? Sa nièce a envoyé des messages à son sujet à une certaine époque ....
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http://www.pereubu.be/wp-content/UBU_PDFs/UBU_874_Web.pdf

Même arme à Beersel et aux "3 canards"


UBU est en mesure de vous révéler que l'arme qui a servi à
l'attaque du Delhaize de Beersel le 7 octobre 1983 dans laquelle
le gérant du grand magasin fut tué et celle utilisée pour l'assassinat
du patron de l'Auberge des 3 Canards à Ohain, Jacques Van
Camp, 5 jours plus tôt était la même. Jamais la presse subsidiée
n'a relayé cette information.

Il s'agit pourtant d'une piste intéressante...


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Connait-on l'origine du nom de l'auberge ?
"Trois canards".
C'est probablement un hazard mais il existait à Paris à l'époque un haut lieu du grand banditisme du même nom. On y trouvait Zampa et Francis le Belge.
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C'est vrai :

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_le_Belge

(...) À sa sortie de prison, ce fait d'armes le fait remarquer auprès des Guérini. Ces derniers le présentent à Tany Zampa et Jacky Imbert, futurs parrains de la ville, qui évoluent à Paris dans la « bande des Trois Canards ». (...)

On doit être proche de la "French Connection" ...

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Connection

Je ne sais pas s'il y a un lien ... mais c'est utile de se poser la question ...

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La "Bande des Trois Canards" en France a été nommée ainsi parce que c'était le nom de leur cabaret à Paris.

http://dongaetano.skyrock.com/114326086-La-bande-des-trois-canards.html

La bande des trois canards, brièvement évoquée dans les articles consacrés à Gaëtan Zampa et à Jacky le Mat, a pris le nom du bar qui constituait son quartier général, situé à Paris, 48, rue de la Rochefoucault. Celui-ci était la propriété depuis 1951 d'un des membres du groupe, Marius B. Mais c'est dans le sud, notamment sur la côte d'azur, que la bande des trois canards va faire ses classes. Elle était alors constituée de jeunes truands marseillais, ses principaux membres s'appelant Marius Bertella, Eugène Matrone et Gaëtan Alboreo.

Le métier de racketteur appris et maîtrisé, la bande va migrer sur Paris. Sa période faste va durer dix ans, entre 1955 et 1965. Dix ans durant lesquels ses membres vont racketter les tenanciers d'établissements parisiens, avec une préférence pour les bars et les hôtels, mais aussi pour les types tranquilles, peu aptes à se rebeller. C'est en ce sens que la bande des trois canards se révélera être une magnifique école du crime organisé. De nombreux truands, et pas des moindres, y sont en effet passés. On citera notamment Jacky le Mat, Gaëtan Zampa, Edgar Zemour, François le Grec, François S, François M (qui aurait également fait partie du gang des tractions avant de Pierrot le Fou), Maurice B, Francis P, Raoul T... .

Les mises à l'amende infligées par les Canards aux récalcitrants sont plutôt violentes. Ceux-ci étaient amenés au QG où ils faisaient l'objet de diverses tortures. Bien que leurs pratiques étaient connues, personne n'osait les inquiéter, si bien que les membres pouvaient traîner en toute impunité dans Montmartre.

En 1966, après moult rackets, la bande va se désintégrer. Certains comme Bertella vont investir dans des haras en Normandie et se faire décorer de médailles agricoles, d'autres vont préférer l'héroïne ou encore les courses.

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Reste à déterminer si le nom de l'auberge est un clin d'oeil à cette fameuse bande et l'établissement du même nom. On a beaucoup parlé de J.V.C. et de certains aspects supposés nébuleux de sa vie. Il ne s'git pas de salir sa mémoire. Ni de faire des supputations hazardeuses. C'est peut-être à fouiller, tout simplement.
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A noter également que des établissements commerciaux tenus par des Franc-Maçons comportent souvent le chiffre 3 "les trois maillets", "les trois frères" etc...
Cela étant, "les 3 canards", c'est peut-être un lieu-dit, un nom qui préexistait à l'arrivée de JVC...
Comme on parle des nombreuses relations de l'intéressé et de milieux maçonniques encombrants qui apparaissent dans le dossier (cf. Heamers)....
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Eric a écrit:
raygil a écrit:
Tu veux parler de Jacques Van Camp ?

Selon, ce que j'ai appris ce n'était pas lui le PROPRIETAIRE du bâtiment
celui qui veut en savoir plus, je suis d'accord de lui donner les renseignements par MP car je ne voudrais pas donner des noms qui ne sont pas corrects
Ce propriétaire m'a été cité (ces derniers jours) à plusieurs reprises dans plusieurs affaires.

Quelqu'un sait de qui Eric parlait comme propriétaire présumé ? De toutes façons si on veut savoir de manière certaine qui était propriétaire de l'Auberge à l'époque il suffit de le demander à l'administration de l'Enregistrement...pourquoi se baser sur des on-dits alors que l'info officielle est disponible sur demande ?
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Tueries : Jumet réunit les familles le jeudi 12
HAQUIN,RENE
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Mardi 3 décembre 2002
Tueries : Jumet réunit les familles le jeudi 12
RENÉ HAQUIN
Pas de « nouvelle piste de l'imperméable oublié » : le scoop étalé hier sur deux pages de « La Dernière Heure » n'était qu'un remake de vieilles rumeurs. Le nouveau procureur du Roi de Mons, Claude Michaux, qui reste en charge du dossier des tueries, dément ces informations qui sont soit inexactes, soit qui ont fait l'objet de toutes les vérifications. L'enquête a été menée. Les explications pourront être données à la réunion des familles des victimes le 12 décembre à Jumet, ajoute-t-il.
On savait qu'un imperméable Burberry avait été trouvé derrière le restaurant « Les trois canards » à Ohain, attaqué par les tueurs le 2 octobre 1983. Rien ne permet de dire que cet imper ait ou non appartenu à un des tueurs. Ni surtout que ce Burberry taille 46 ait appartenu à Vincent Louvaert, un truand décédé en novembre 1983, qui, lui, mesurait 1,82 m.
La soeur de Louvaert, qui selon « La DH » aurait lavé un Burberry taché de sang dans sa baignoire à Laeken, a depuis longtemps précisé aux enquêteurs qu'il ne s'agissait pas de ce type d'imper. Le Burberry d'Ohain a été soumis au labo qui n'a relevé aucune trace suspecte pouvant provenir de sang.·
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K ecrivait .

Citation:
3. Conclusion axe Latinus

Cet axe de recherche Latinus, malgré des recherches importantes et minutieuses, n'a mis en lumière aucun lien probant entre les tueries du Brabant et la mouvance Latinus,
sous les deux réserves suivantes
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>réserve évoquée ci-dessus quant au contact Latinus x :
>réserve évoquée par la synthèse de l'adjudant Lachlan-Jenicot :
V., (26) complice d'Eric Lammers, membre actif du WNP, a déclaré avoir donné le numéro de la plaque minéralogique d'une Golf à Maurice Lammers qui, dit-il, le lui aurait demandé; c'est ce même numéro que les tueurs ont utilisé sur une fausse plaque placée sur la Golf de M.Van Camp, victime des tueurs au restaurant «Les 3 canards »; les tueurs ont abandonné cette voiture Golf dans lebois de Hourpes; 5 ans plus tard, Marcial Barbier, membre du WNP, a désigné à la CBW (27) le même endroit comme étant celui qu'il avait antérieurement repéré avec Latinus comme lieu de retraite pour le WNP.

C est quand meme un point important souligne ici
C Maurice Lammers qui est ici en premiere ligne
Cela etant les temoins des 3 C evoquent des individus parlant une langue inconnue
3 TBW sur place...
2 au moins parlant une langue inconnue
Connait on l entourage de Maurice Lammers qui aurait commandite ou peut etre seulement donne un coup de main....


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J oubliais qu il y a aussi l histoire du gilet apres Temse
Ca fait beaucoup
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Ce qui frappe en lisant sauf erreur de ma part la post face de Michel au thriller la troisieme vague de Paul colize c est au cours de la seconde vague ce qu a dit un tbw

on est venus pour rien on va tirer dans le tas a peu de choses pret

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