Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge)

Voici ce que Boemerang a rassemblé en partant du portrait-robot n° 23 ( voir fil de discussion à ce sujet ) :

(où l'on retrouve Frank Wisner !!!)


http://www.courrierinternational.com/article/2000/10/05/la-guerre-de-l-ombre-de-la-cia-en-asie

La guerre de l'ombre de la CIA en Asie

Dans un nouveau livre, deux anciens agents secrets américains témoignent du rôle majeur joué par Washington contre le communisme dans les années 50, en particulier en Indonésie.

05.10.2000 | John McBeth | Far Eastern Economic Review

Dans l'hebdo N° 518
Fiches pays

Etats-Unis
Indonésie
Laos
Thaïlande

Villes

Houston
Washington
Padang
Jakarta
San Francisco

Personnes

James Morrison
Pat Landry
Tony Poe
Allen Dulles
Maludin Simbolon
Naval Institute Press
Kenneth Conboy
Kenneth Conby
Frank Wisner
John McBeth

Pat Landry et Anthony "Tony Poe" Poshepny sont les derniers représentants d'une race en voie de disparition : celle des légendaires agents opérationnels de la CIA, qui fomentèrent des rébellions et dirigèrent des guérillas pour le compte d'un pays souvent ingrat. Landry, aujourd'hui âgé de 75 ans, vit tranquillement à Houston, au Texas, et vient de surmonter un cancer. A 78 ans, Poshepny, lui, s'est installé à San Francisco et maintient des contacts étroits avec les montagnards hmongs [une minorité ethnique] en exil, qui se sont battus à ses côtés dans les montagnes du Laos. Rechignant à quitter l'Asie, comme nombre de leurs collègues des années 60, tous deux ont entamé leur retraite anticipée en Thaïlande. Landry a vaguement tenté de faire des affaires. Avec son épouse hmong, le grand buveur qu'est Poshepny s'est essayé à la culture du tapioca et de la canne à sucre non loin de la vieille base aérienne d'Udon Thani, ancien centre nerveux des opérations paramilitaires de la CIA au-delà du Mékong.

Ancien officier des Marines, Poshepny a commencé à travailler pour la CIA au cours d'opérations navales clandestines pendant la guerre de Corée [1950-1953], avant de devenir conseiller auprès de l'armée thaïlandaise. Landry, officier de carrière dans le renseignement, a fait passer des agents de l'autre côté du rideau de fer, puis a organisé des infiltrations en Corée du Nord à l'aide de chalutiers appartenant à l'Agence. Lui aussi a servi un temps comme conseiller militaire en Thaïlande, vers le milieu des années 50.

Mais c'est en Indonésie que Kenneth Conboy et James Morrison [auteurs du livre Feet to the Fire*] retrouvent le fil des carrières clandestines de ces deux hommes. S'appuyant sur des documents déclassifiés et des interviews exceptionnelles de Poshepny, de Landry et de personnalités indonésiennes et de la CIA, Conboy et Morrison proposent un récit aussi détaillé que neutre des tentatives de la CIA pour déclencher des révoltes dans les îles de Sumatra et de Célèbes en 1957-1958.

L'architecte de ces interventions s'appelait Frank Wisner, responsable des opérations clandestines de la CIA. Elles avaient pour but de mettre la pression sur le président Sukarno pour éviter que l'Indonésie ne passe dans le camp communiste. Mais, avec une troupe hétéroclite composée de colonels indonésiens dissidents, de pompiers volants du Montana, de pilotes mercenaires polonais et philippins et de sous-mariniers américains, le projet était voué à l'échec. Ouvrage complet présentant huit pages de photographies jamais vues, Feet to the Fire raconte comment la CIA a aidé le chef des rebelles de Sumatra, le colonel Maludin Simbolon, à se ravitailler en armes. Quand il s'avéra que les forces de Simbolon seraient incapables de résister à l'offensive terrestre et aérienne de Jakarta, l'opération avorta rapidement. Coincés derrière les lignes indonésiennes, Landry et Poshepny s'enfuirent vers le sud à partir de Padang, sur la côte ouest de Sumatra. Ils finirent par regagner un sous-marin américain à bord d'un bateau de pêche.

La résistance s'écroulant à Sumatra, le gouvernement indonésien s'attaqua ensuite au nord de Célèbes. Là, les pilotes appuyés par la CIA avaient réussi à contrôler efficacement l'espace aérien au-dessus d'une grande partie de l'est de l'Indonésie. Décollant de Manado, tenue par les rebelles, des bombardiers B-26 et des chasseurs P-51 Mustang frappaient les bases aériennes, les casernes, les installations pétrolières et maritimes à Halmahera, Ternate et Amboine, dans les Moluques, Kendari et Palu, dans le sud-est et le centre de Célèbes, et même Balikpapan, sur la côte Est de Kalimantan.

Alors que les troupes indonésiennes progressaient sur Manado, le pilote américain Allan Pope fut abattu aux commandes d'un B-26. C'est à ce moment qu'Allen Dulles, directeur de la CIA, décida de mettre un terme à l'opération. Pope, lui, opta pour la provocation idéologique - "Ça fait vingt-deux ans que je me bats contre les communistes" -, tout en prétendant avoir perdu la mémoire quant aux détails de l'opération. Il fut condamné à mort en janvier 1960 [par les autorités indonésiennes].

Conboy et Morrison décrivent le plan, finalement abandonné, monté par la CIA pour récupérer le pilote dans la cour de sa prison, à Jakarta, à l'aide du système Skyhook, un nouveau dispositif de récupération aérienne. Mais cette mission à risque fut finalement annulée. Après deux ans passés dans le couloir de la mort, Pope, source d'embarras pour les deux camps, fut gracié. Avant qu'il ne soit renvoyé aux Etats-Unis, le président Sukarno admonesta l'aventurier en des termes qui auraient aussi bien pu s'adresser à l'ensemble des opérations menées par la CIA : "Rentrez chez vous, cachez-vous, allez vous faire pendre ailleurs, et nous oublierons tout ça."

Poshepny, Landry et quatre autres agents de la CIA impliqués dans la rébellion indonésienne jouèrent ensuite des rôles importants dans l'opération paramilitaire au Laos, la plus grande jamais entreprise par l'agence. Pendant des années, la guérilla hmong entretenue par la CIA immobilisa les forces vietnamiennes dans un affrontement pour s'emparer de la zone stratégique de la plaine des Jarres, la parcelle de territoire la plus bombardée de l'histoire de la guerre. Les secrets concernant cette période n'ont commencé à filtrer que depuis peu.
Conboy, qui vit en Indonésie, a collaboré avec Morrison pour son ouvrage de référence intitulé Shadow War : The CIA's Secret War in Laos [La guerre de l'ombre : la guerre secrète de la CIA au Laos]. Il est aujourd'hui considéré comme l'un des meilleurs spécialistes de l'histoire militaire et des opérations clandestines en Asie. A 35 ans, avec déjà dix livres à son actif et un autre en préparation, cet ancien directeur adjoint du Centre des études asiatiques de Washington a dû se tourner vers des éditeurs marginaux pour pouvoir publier des récits qui auraient pourtant leur place dans les rangs des best-sellers.


* Feet to the Fire : Covert Operations in Indonesia, par Kenneth Conby et James Morrison, Naval Institute Press, 1957-1958, 28,95 dollars.

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Au sujet de Guy MOREAU, grand ami de Guillaume VOGELEER :

http://kisimba.skynetblogs.be/archive/2010/08/20/codoki-commandos-du-kivu-64-65-commentaires-et-photos-d-un-a.html

et

http://www.seniorennet.be/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1638638

La page du premier lien est peu lisible mais voici le paragraphe concernant Moreau:

"Le matin du 20 mars la jeep recce tombe en panne et nous occasionne du retard; Dédé Dejardin, Jean Dessy, Franz Coupez, Guy Moreau et Eugène Cornet décident de s' installer sur la ferret et la colonne renforcée du capitaine Ernest et d' une partie de ses hommes et de Donatien démarre vers 8 heures."

C'est peu mais cela confirme en tous cas que ce Guy Moreau faisait partie entre 1964 et 1967 d'un commando de volontaires
(ensuite mercenaires), les CODOKI, qui affrontèrent les rebelles mulélistes dans l'Est du Congo. Vogeleer dit aussi avoir combattu ces même rebelles.

En suivant le second lien on peut lire que les CODOKI rejoignent à un moment le 10e codo de Jean Schramme (le fameux bataillon Léopard ou "Kansimba") dans le Nord-Katanga et Sud-Kivu. Vogeleer porte encore 10 ans plus tard en Asie l'écusson des "Kansimba" sur sa salopette, tout comme son ami Patrick le Corse (également lecteur de Sodiers Of Fortune) à Bruxelles en 79/80, signalé ensuite à Pattaya en compagnie de Jimmy.

Les trois hommes faisaient très vraisemblablement partie de la centaine de survivants passés avec Schramme au Rwanda par le pont sur la Ruzizi en novembre '67.

On voit également dans un article de SOF signé Jim Shortt, le sigle du bataillon Kansimba dans le café de Masy, "La Renaissance" (aussi connu par les soldats de fortune sous le nom de "Simba Bar", rue Marché au Charbon à Bruxelles).

Pour Jim/James Shortt, voir les infos de Swansongunsung https://tueriesdubrabant.1fr1.net/t1797-james-shortt

Et voir aussi :

https://tueriesdubrabant.1fr1.net/t2291-ott-lucien-victor

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?134608-Interesting-SOF-articles-on-Angola-SADF-etc/page4

Sur Jim Shortt, l'auteur de l'article ci-dessus :

http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/James_Shortt


Voir aussi :

http://www.powerbase.info/index.php/The_Security_Industry_extract_from_The_%22Terrorism%22_Industry

Chapter 6 'The Security Industry' from Ed Herman and Gerry O'Sullivan, The "Terrorism" Industry, 1989, Praeger, pages 117-147

(...)

Counterterrorism Training Camps A number of counterterrorism training schools have also sprung up over the last decade offering I hands-on seminars on detection, weaponry, and assassination. These schools operate as part of a network built largely around the activities of Soldier of Fortune magazine and the private contra aid enterprise established by both Oliver North and John Singlaub. Such schools serve a dual function. While ostensibly training individuals in counterterrorism techniques for self-defense, the camps also offer classes in counterinsurgency and assassination. These academies have attracted members of right-wing, racist, paramilitary organizations such as the Ku Klux Klan and Posse Comitatus, as well as executives interested in fending off terrorists.

Many of the civilian mercenaries and trainers connected with these camps received counterterrorism and Ranger instruction at U.S. Army Special Forces bases at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, Fort Benning, Georgia, and Fort Lewis, Washington.68 According to Jeff Gerth, "Some of the units were created to fight terrorism but have acquired broadened mandates and training for missions against insurgencies in developing countries in Central America, Africa, and Asia. "69

In July 1983, Tom Posey, a former marine corporal, Birchite, and member of the Alabama National Guard, along with four other National Guardsmen, organized Civilian-Military Assistance (CMA),70 as an instrument for sending mercenaries and military supplies to El Salvador. With extensive official support (both military and diplomatic), CMA sent numerous shipments of weapons to El Salvador.71 According to Posey, General Gustavo Alvarez Martinez of Honduras approached his group in 1983 with a request for training and advice.72 The V.S. embassy arranged the initial meetings between CMA and the Honduran.73 CMA soon turned to helping the contras, and not only provided material aid but also sent mercenaries to Honduras and Nicaragua to fight. Posey bragged to the Huntsville Times that he had fired three hundred rounds at the Nicaraguans and hinted at engagement in hand-to-hand combat. On September 1, 1984, two of Posey's men were killed when a helicopter they were flying over Nicaragua was shot down. There followed denials of the mercenaries' involvement, "claims of mercy missions," and so on. This entire operation was done with extensive official connivance,74 in violation of the Neutrality Act as well as the Boland amendment.

One of the largest and oldest of the training centers is SIONICS, Inc. (Studies in Operational Negations of Insurgency and Counter-Subversion), formerly Cobray International Training Center, with headquarters in Powder Springs, Georgia. Founded in 1979 by the late Lieutenant General Mitchell Livingston WerBell Ill, SIONICS is a frequent advertiser in such mercenary magazines as Soldier of Fortune, Eagle, and Gung-Ho. WerBell was an OSS officer in China during World War II and worked closely with both Ray Cline and John Singlaub (Singlaub was a frequent visitor and occasional instructor at the SIONICS camp).

(...)

69. Jeff Gerth, "U.S. Military Creates Secret Units for Use in Sensitive Tasks Abroad," New York Times, June 8, 1984.
70. Subsequently, the name of the organization was changed to Civilian Material Assistance. 71. Ken Lawrence, "From Phoenix Associates to Civilian-Military Assistance," CovertAction Information Bulletin, no. 22 (Fall 1984), pp. 18-19.
72. See chapter 5, p. 85 and note 42.
73. Barry et al., New Right Humanitarians, p. 50.
74. Philip Taubman, "U.S. Army Officers Helped Private Group in Salvador," New York Times, Sept. 7, 1984. In the Iran-Contra Affair documents there is an explicit reference by Reagan administration officials to "periodic assistance" to the contras "from the Civilian Military Assistance Group [CMA] in Alabama" as part of a semi¬official apparatus. Appendix, vol. I, p. 324.
75. Marshall, Scott, and Hunter, The Iran-Contra Connection, pp. 67-68. 76. Anderson and Anderson, Inside the League, p. 182.

(...)

_ _ _


http://www.nytimes.com/1984/06/08/us/us-military-creates-secret-units-for-use-in-sensitive-tasks-abroad.html

U.S. MILITARY CREATES SECRET UNITS FOR USE IN SENSITIVE TASKS ABROAD

[ DISPLAYING ABSTRACT ]

The following article is based on reporting by Jeff Gerth and Philip Taubman and was written by Mr. Gerth.

WASHINGTON, June 7 - The Defense Department has created several secret commando units in recent years, and they have tried to rescue missing Americans in danger spots abroad, participated in the invasion of Grenada and supported Central Intelligence Agency covert operations in Central America, according to Administration officials and members of Congress. The development of the elite units, which has extended the military's traditional concept of special forces, has raised concern in Congress, some lawmakers say. They say the worry is that the units might become a uniformed version of the Central Intelligence Agency and be used to circumvent Congressional restrictions and reporting requirements on intelligence activities and the use of American forces in combat operations. Official Says There Is No Risk But a senior intelligence official denied that such a risk existed. He said that although the new special operations forces constituted a resource for intelligence operations, any such use of them would be directed by the C.I.A. and properly reported to Congress.

Pour information ...

... en cherchant les personnes en lien avec Jim Coyne et Robert K Brown (qui sont eux-mêmes très proches, au moins depuis 1980 et encore actuellement), on trouve notamment :

La société L-3 Stratis

http://www.l-3stratis.com/


Peter Slade

http://www.razorsedgebypeterslade.net/

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/investigation/292050/a-mercenary-tale


Bob Seigle

http://www.orsg.us/home/leadership/robert-seigle-bio


Plus étonnant:

Albert Santoli
http://www.asiaamerica.org/

http://www.uscc.gov/hearings/2005hearings/written_testimonies/05_07_21_22wrts/santoli_albert_wrts.pdf

A noter aussi :

Thadtheb Boonnaum

Instructor at Royal Thai Army

http://th.linkedin.com/pub/thadtheb-boonnaum/34/477/120

Note : avec Bob Seigle (voir ci-dessus), on est dans le complexe militaro-industriel des USA...

Par ailleurs, sur Robert K. Brown, voir :

http://www.seekgod.ca/cnp.br.htm#rbrown

(...)

Robert K. Brown - CNP 1988; also according to attendance to CNP Board of Governors meeting, List of Member Participants Dallas, Texas, August 17-18, 1984, and financial contributions to CNP for at least four years. 19.; he is founder/editor/publisher of Soldier of Fortune magazine (SOF) 20 , a mercenary magazine; president, Omega Group Ltd, parent group of SOF; former special agent, Counter Intelligence Corps; Special Forces "A" Team leader;

Lieutenant Colonel, U.S. Army Reserve, (Ret.); Special Forces Team Leader (Viet Nam); OIC Advanced Marksmanship Unit XVIII Corps; Graduate Command and General Staff College; Military Parachutist (wings from U.S., El Salvador, Guatemala, Israel, Peru, Taiwan, Thailand; smuggled from Afghanistan 5,000 rounds 5.45mm Com Bloc ammo to U.S. Government (first test sample in U.S.). Director/member of Executive Committee for two years, past member of Public Affairs and Finance Committees. Currently member of Legislative Policy, Grassroots Development, Publications Policies, Action Shooting and Range Development Committees. Has supported and funded pro-gun candidates for state legislatures, House of Representatives and U.S. Senate; combat correspondent and investigative journalist. 21

Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman, Sept. 22, 1999 issued a proclamation declaring that day to be "Soldier of Fortune Day" and "Lt. Col. Robert K. Brown Day" in honor of Soldier of Fortune magazine, its 20th annual convention in Las Vegas, and its founder and publisher."

Brown was Vice Chair on the Nominating Committee of the National Rifle Association (NRA)22.

In addition to publishing Soldier of Fortune, the Omega Group publishes two other gun magazines: Guns & Action and Combat Weapons.(1)...Calling themselves "action journalists," many of SOF's reporters have come under fire for participating in the training of counterrevolutionary groups in El Salvador and Nicaragua. SOF claims to have sent over a dozen training teams to El Salvador in the early 1980's to train government troops in sniping, anti-guerrilla urban warfare, explosives and weapons maintenance.(10,11) The magazine's "Expanded Central America Edition" (Sept. 1983), which coincided with the group's training trip to El Salvador, showed a picture of a Salvadoran soldier and two members of the magazine's group crouching around the bodies of two dead guerrillas. Robert J. McCartney, author of an article about SOF, claims that "The picture clearly resembled photographs that hunters take after they have bagged a deer."(11)" 23

According to Bellant's article in Covert Action, Soldier of Fortune has regularly praised pro-Nazi individuals and groups, and promotes the sale of Nazi regalia. SOF started in 1975 in sympathy with the racist regime of Rhodesia. In recent years, SOF staff have trained Salvadoran military units in urban warfare. 24.

"In February 1985, former Justice Department attorney John Loftus sent Congress a report detailing his suspicions that [William] Casey and [John K.] Singlaub [CNP], using the World Anti-Communist League, had resurrected an old private conduit system for laundering money to "freedom fighters." The old conduit was Crusade for Freedom, a public charity established by retired General Lucius Clay that provided "private" support for the National Committee for a Free Europe (now Radio Free Europe) and the American Committee for Liberation (now Radio Liberty). The Two committees-home to Nazis and Nazi collaborators who, as Loftus noted, migrated to WACL--were secretly laundering government money to Eastern Europe insurgents at the direction of the NSC and the State Department's clandestine Office of Policy Coordination..."close to 20 privately incorporated U.S. groups have reportedly sent...aid...to Nicaraguan refugees in Honduras and to the contras themselves...[The] driving forces behind the major groups are a small group of about a half a dozen men, most of whom have military or paramilitary experience...The contra auxiliary includes the World Anti-Communist League and it's U.S. Council for World Freedom, the American Security Council, Council for Inter-American Security and Western Goals [defunct spy group of John Birch Society] ..."

For Radio Free Europe and or Radio Liberty > [was American Committee for Liberation]~ J. Peter Grace, Dr. Stanley Monteith, Frank Shakespeare

Among the other key groups in the auxiliary are the following:

The Florida-based Air Commandos Association, led by retired Brigadier General Harry "Heinie" Aderholt, is a group of approximately 1,600 past and present members of the U.S. Special Forces. Aderholt, Soldier of Fortune's unconventional warfare editor, coordinated the joint CIA-Pentagon-AID program to provide "humanitarian" relief to the Hmong secret army in Laos and served as chief of covert air operations in Singlaub's Special Operations Group...

Soldier of Fortune...was founded in 1975 by the Colorado-based Omega Group headed by retired Lt. Col. Robert K. Brown, a veteran of the Phoenix program and special operations in Laos and ex-mercenary in white-ruled Rhodesia. Brown sports a T-shirt boasting, "I Was Killing When Killing Wasn't Cool." Soldier of Fortune (SOF) runs articles on counterinsurgency warfare, glamorizes training and combat missions by SOF personnel, advertises weapons and mercenary services and encourages donations to its affiliated El Salvador/Nicaragua Defense Fund, which printed and distributed some 500 copies of the CIA contra manual, and Refugee Relief International, which provides medical training and supplies to El Salvador and the contras. Refugee Relief is led by Thomas Reisinger, the assistant director of SOF for special projects; board members include Singlaub, Aderholt and SOF Military Affairs Editor Alexander McColl. (In March 1988, a Texas jury ordered Soldier of Fortune to pay $9.4 million in damages to the family of a woman killed by a hit man her husband had hired through a classified ad in the magazine...)

The CIA contra manual is mild compared to some of the murder and sabotage manuals SOF promotes, with such titles as How to Kill Vols. I-V, Hit Man ("Learn how a pro makes a living at this craft without landing behind bars"), Techniques of Harassment and Elementary Field Interrogation. The last manual includes explicit instructions for psychological and physical torture..."

(...)

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Il y a plusieurs vidéos avec Robert Brown sur You Tube.

En particulier :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n6yNzfIb_U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5n1zAUDUSY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ue1XXiufN0&feature=related

La première citée date de 1982 :

Soldier of Fortune Magazine Convention 1982








A cette convention, William Westmoreland ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Westmoreland ) a pris la parole !

Tony Poe vivait en Thaïlande où il était ami avec Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge), ancien mercenaire mais aussi associé
bruxellois (bar "le Panpan") de Havelange, lequel connaissait aussi Florizoone.

Michel a posté un extrait du livre de Bouten sur le fil au sujet de Florizoone:

Guy Bouten rencontre Maurice Florizoone. Celui-ci a séjourné en prison pendant une vingtaine d'années, notamment à Nivelles. Jean Gol se rendait régulièrement chez lui avec sa maîtresse pour des rendez-vous intimes. Gol parlait parfois d'opérations de blanchiment et de financement de partis. Florizonne était coursier chez Kirschen à Anvers. Son neveu connaissait très bien Hilaire Beelen. Il possédait un château à Herbeumont où on a un jour saisi des plans qui auraient permis de fomenter un coup d'état. Le domaine de Beelen servait aussi à des entraînements paramilitaires. Il fréquentait Paul Cams, qui fut assassiné dans sa maison à Ganshoren. Des photos montrent Beelen en présence de Verhofstad et De Croo. Gol était mêlé à un trafic de devises à grande échelle avec l'Angola. Kirschen était aussi très proche de Gol. Florizoone fréquentait Havelange, Léon de Staercke, Michel Dewit et Habran. Il avait pris en location la villa que Marc Vanden Eynde (fils du concierge assassiné de l'auberge de Beersel) occupait avant lui. L'enquête sur ce meurtre a été suspendue pendant trois ans, probablement à la demande de Deprêtre. Il voulait sans doute protéger certaines personnes. A peine Florizoone avait-il emménagé que des faux policiers se sont présentés à son domicile. Parmi eux, Christian Smets. Plusieurs hypothèses sont évoquées au sujet de la présence de Smets. Vanden Eynde était un ami proche de Degrelle. Pendant des années il a travaillé comme chauffeur de taxi et connaissait bien Angelou. Florizoone fréquentait la villa de Kirschen, où il rencontrait Mendez et Gol.

Connecting the dots...?

Intéressant aussi de relire la page sur Oppuurs, où il est question de patois bruxellois, et d'un grand barbu...
Si je ne me trompe, il y a sur ce fil une photo de Vogeleer avec Poe et un grand barbu (ressemblance avec l'image du barbu
provenant d'une émission de la RTB?). Vogeleer parlait le patois bruxellois.

La question de la ressemblance de Poe avec le PR 23 reste toujours posée.

Enfin, si l'on veut bien ne pas fondre les trois PR en un seul, je me demande à quoi ressemblerait Vogeleer avec un chapeau de pêcheur et des lunettes...?

Les messages de SII restent aussi très intéressants :

https://tueriesdubrabant.1fr1.net/t373-les-faits-rien-queles-faits?highlight=rien+que+des+faits

C'est en effet très intéressant ... Il faut ressortir ces fils de discussion de l'oubli ...

La maison de Paul Cams à Ganshoren nous conduit à Sergio Ferrari, personnage central du rapport PANDA sur la mafia belgo-luxembourgeoise.

" Florizoone fréquentait Havelange, Léon de Staercke, Michel Dewit et Habran " ... il pouvait donc être en contact avec Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge). Cela permet de mettre en évidence des liens très instructifs.

Petite correction au sujet de la photo suivante :


:


Guillaume Vogeleer est à gauche et c'est Jim Coyne qui est au centre (cela est tout-à-fait certain). Jim Coyne était très proche de Guillaume Vogeleer et aussi de Robert K. Brown (au moins depuis 1980), le créateur de Soldiers of Fortune (pour lequel Jim Coyne était "journaliste" - actuellement : http://www.coynephotos.com/ ).

Nous sommes au noeud de liens entre des "services" américains (Soldier of Fortune est, selon de bonnes sources, lié à la CIA), les mercenaires (Charles Mazy, Tavernier ...) et la pègre belge (Havelange, De Staercke, Habran, etc)

Je ne crois pas que la personne sur la droite soit Tony Poe. Il s'agit plutôt du propriétaire du bar "Tiger".

Le portrait-robot ressemblant très fort à Jim Coyne est :




On retrouve Tony Poe sur la photo suivante :




(second à partir de la droite)

Il lui manque deux doigts à la main gauche mais cela ne peut se voir sur la photo.

Les deux photos a été prises dans le même établissement, si j'en juge par les murs (elles viennent aussi du même forum sur internet).

Sur Tony Poe, voir :

http://www.air-america.org/In_Remembrance/poe.shtml

(...) In 1970, Tony replaced Jack Shirley as head of training at Phitscamp in Thailand. While during this work, he managed to lose the two middle fingers on his hand to a Claymore mine. He closed the camp in 1974 and retired the following year. He remained in Thailand until relocating to California in the 1990s. (...)

Par contre, malgré son T-shirt, Jim Coyne n'a pas travaillé pour Air America ...

En complément du message de " Et In Arcadia Ego " ci-dessus :

" les CODOKI rejoignent à un moment le 10ème commando de Jean Schramme (le fameux bataillon Léopard ou "Kansimba") dans le Nord-Katanga et Sud-Kivu. Vogeleer porte encore 10 ans plus tard en Asie l'écusson des "Kansimba" sur sa salopette, tout comme son ami Patrick le Corse (également lecteur de Sodiers Of Fortune) à Bruxelles en 79/80, signalé ensuite à Pattaya en compagnie de Jimmy.
Les trois hommes faisaient très vraisemblablement partie de la centaine de survivants passés avec Schramme au Rwanda par le pont sur la Ruzizi en novembre '67. "

J'ai trouvé un livre intéressant :

" Maji Mulele Maji "

de Camille Adam

Il est question de la rebellion muleliste au Kivu (Lulingu, Shabunda...) en 1964. On y parle d'un certain Moreau (l'ami de Vogeleer ?) ...

http://www.scribd.com/BEGHINSELEN

http://www.scribd.com/doc/97794240/Camille-Adam-Kivu-1964-1

http://www.scribd.com/doc/97794394/Camille-Adam-Kivu-1964-2

http://www.scribd.com/doc/97794652/Camille-Adam-Kivu-1964-3

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Je ne crois pas que la personne sur la droite soit Tony Poe. Il s'agit plutôt du propriétaire du bar "Tiger".
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Toutes mes excuses    pour cette confusion, le troisième personnage sur la photo avec Vogeleer est bien "Tiger" Rydberg; son bar à Bangkok était le rendez-vous des vétérans et des mercenaires, tout comme le café deMasy à Bruxelles.

Tony Poe est bien le second personnage à partir de la droite sur la photo "assise".

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Fil très intéressent,
- le quel boite, le grand jim Coyne ou le vieux Tony Poe?
- Ci ces le grand, Boit il du coté, qui nous intéressent?
- Sur la photo assise, en arrière plan, dans un cadre, cella semble aussi être J. Coyne
- j'ai bien comprit il sont tout deux Américain et il ne reste que jim Coyne en vie ?

HERVE a écrit:

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On y parle d'un certain Moreau (l'ami de Vogeleer ?) ...
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Même prénom, même région du Congo, et passage de membres du Codoki chez les Léopards.

Avec en plus le commentaire de Paulini en p1 de ce fil, cela paraît bien correspondre (sauf que Moreau était moins âgé que Vogeleer, mais ça ne n'empêche pas).

Un faire part récent de décès d'un Guy Moreau, né au Kivu est visible en ligne ICI

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_J_Venter

Quelques extraits tirés de Google Books, recherche avec "SOF" (Soldier of Fortune) et "Brown"

War Dog: Fighting Other People's Wars : the Modern Mercenary in Combat

By Al J. Venter

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Many of the yarns that have surfaced over the years have appeared in one form or another in one of America's most unusal publishing ventures, a magazine called Soldier of Fortune.

Love it or hate it; this "Journal of Professional Adventurers" has a remarkable following, both in the U.S. government and in the military, though no self-respecting career officer would ever admit to reading it. It is also true that there probably isn't an intelligence organization worth its oats that doesn't receive at least one copy of SOF each month.

The magazine has produced some remarkable leads over the years. The Pentagon paid the magazine several times for Soviet bloc weapons and systems it clandestinely recovered in some of the wars that its correspondents - almost all of them freelance - reported on. As one might imagine, a lot of this stuff came out of Afganistan when the Soviets were still there.

SOF has also been instrumental in blowing the occasional career by explosing what it terms "the real truth behind the story". It laid bare some of the excesses committed by ATF and FBI agents in the attack on the David Koresh compound in Waco, Texas. Exposés have been the magazine's staple diet over the years, and its writers have included some interesting people. Hollywood military technical advisor Dale Dye, Jim Morris (author of War Story, Fighting Men, The Devil's Secret Name, and Dumbo Drop - which first appeared as a story in SOF before it was filmed), and columnist Fred Reed, a writer for the Washington Times and Harpers are just some of the better known.

The magazine's owner, Robert K. Brown, is as blunt and innovative as they come. Crusty as hell at times, the meat-and-potatoes media style of the magazine has made the man an icon among its readers, the majority of thm ex-servicemen.

While Soldier of Fortune remains a strictly American phenomenon, Brown has been shoving a finger in Uncle Sam's (and nearly everyone else's) eye for more than a quarter century. He has done so by pursuing a succession of causes over the years. These have included training insurgent forces in more than a dozen countries in Africa, Asia, the Middle East and the Americas, all of them beset with some form of racial, religious or civil strife. Some of the people he employed in this regard might have been labeled "war dogs" by the magazine's detractors.

Lt-Col. Robert K. Brown USAR (rtd.) admits that in putting Soldier of Fortune on the map he has tended to follow his own brand of "participatory journalism". He is also candid enough to concede that had he still be doing the same sort of thing in the Unites States today, he 'd probably be behind bars.

In the time that Brown has been fomenting solutions to radical causes - some of them outrageous, others as controversial as hell - he has either personally led groups of his magazine's staff into these frays or sent them independently into a variety of wars. These have included conflicts in Afghanistan, the Sudan, El Salvador, Uganda, Rhodesia, Angola, the Congo, Lebanon, Mozambique, Bruma, laos, Chad, Nicaragua, Sierra Leone, Israel, Croatia, Afghanistan (sic) and Iraq - and a good few others, he confided, that he'd rather I not write about.

I first met Colonel Brown in the mid-1970s when he flew into South Africa to discuss the founding of his fledgling magazine. The trouble was that he never made it past the first control gate in the airport in Johannesburg. Because he had briefly been involved with Fidel Castro during the Cuban revolution, the South Africans refused to let him in. It mattered little that by then, Brown - having tasted the consequences of Cuban-style socialism from up close - did a smart political about-face to become one of the most dedicated supporters of anti-Communist causes in the world.

Loved by some, abhorred by others, Brown has made something of an industry out of attacking what he has always referred to as "the Evil Empire". While it would be overly simplistic to label him anti-Communist, he has pursued the cause long enough for the KGB to call him an "imperialist propagandist". That pleased the man : there was a time when his favorite lapel button read "I'd Rather be Killing Communists". Brown, more recently, has mellowed a bit, though his mindset and worldview remain intractable. Some of his friends say he's still as irascible as hell.

Brown recently paraphrased a maxim coined by Churchill after the Boer War. The former Prime Minister put it this way : "The most exhilarating experience in the world is to be fired at with no effect." Brown tacked the following onto the end of the phrase: "and to fire back". That came after he 'd led an SOF team into Afghanistan in May 1982 and returned with Russian military equipment that had been captured by the Mujahadeen. By then the war was heating up in all quarters. Everything went pretty much according to plan for Brown until one of the rebel leaders asked him whether he would like to be part of a group that was going to attack a Russian fort.

Always the opportunist, Brown replied, "Why not ?"

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Brown estimates that his magazine can safely take some credit for the number of Soviet killed and tanks destroyed (...)

Soldier of Fortune was the new boy on the block when it started more than three decades ago. The magazine quickly proved a hit well beyond Washington's beltway and also made Brown enough money to allow him to do pretty much whatever he wanted. One thing he did was build an A-camp in Laos with a hundred and fifty-man army of Hmong tribesmen. The idea was to rescue a group of twenty or so U.S. Air Force pilots and navigators purportedly being held as POWs in the northern part of the country.

The Defense Intelligence Agency took Brown seriously enough to give him a list of all the pilors who had gone missing. It was agreed that once contact had been made, Admiral Gerry Paulsen of the DIA would provide secret call signs that only individual captured pilots would know : that way they'd be able to check whether they were dealing with the real thing. In the end nothing came of it (...)

The popularity of the magazine allowed Robert K. Brown to do all sorts of things that others only dream about. These included operational visits to Africa, air drops over the South American Andes to rescue refugees, helping hurricane victims in the Dominican Republic, a succession of insertions into Afghanistan, training sniper teams with the Christian forces in ebanon, visits to the Sudan to find out whether the Khartoum government was using nerve gas against the southern insurgents, support for dissident Karen tribespeople against the Burmese, and so on. During the Rhodesian War, Brown and his men were regular visitors to the front.

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Another offer made in SOF not long afterwards was 100 000 USD to the first person who could bring back a sample of "yellow rain" from Southeast Asia. (...) it was SOF staffer Jim Coyne who eventually brought the first "yellow rain" sample back to America. (...)

By then Brown had struck up a good relationship with at least one of Washington's intelligence agencies, though he won't tell you which.
It is interesting to note that after the U.S. invasion of Grenada in 1983, Brown and his gang returned to the U.S. with a suitcase full of captured classified documents. (...)


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and a good few others, he confided, that he'd rather I not write about.

... on voudrait bien en savoir plus ...

Une critique du livre " War Dog " de Al J Venter est disponible sur :

http://www.scribd.com/BEGHINSELEN

http://www.scribd.com/doc/98627341/War-Dog-AL-J-VENTER

On y relève que Al Venter manifeste de la sympathie pour les mercenaires. Un chapitre presque entier est consacré à "Soldier of Fortune" et à ses contributeurs.

Il faut savoir que Al Venter est un ami de Robert K. Brown depuis 40 ans ...

Sur Soldier of Fortune et Robert K. Brown :

http://www.pirateballerina.com/files/soldier_of_fortune.htm

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Conclusion

All in all, given the whole context of circumstances surrounding them, it seems evident that the supposedly “private sector” activities of Robert K. Brown and Omega Group are something else altogether. To the contrary, it is a near certainty that the whole operation is an integral, if little considered, aspect of the covert means through which the United States government and its transnational corporate allies plan to continue to assert their hegemony over much of the globe.

Treating Bob Brown as merely a pathetically aging adolescent who never quite outgrew is flirtation with toy soldiers is, in the end, not quite fair. He is that, to be sure, but he is not all posture and pretension. At the very least, he has fashioned a lucrative career out of sending other people off to kill. And to die. The fundamental reality of Omega Group is perhaps best summed up by a poster hanging on the wall of Boulder’s Soldier of Fortune office complex: featuring a picture of vulture awaiting its chance to descend upon its prey, the poster reads, “Killing is our business, and business is good.”

There is nothing abstract in that honest statement. And the number of corpses strewn like litter across the landscapes of Asia, Africa, and Latin America can attest to the accuracy of its meaning.

A voir :

http://www.scribd.com/doc/96135063/CAIB-Covert-Action-n%C2%B022-automne-1984

Sur Soldier of Fortune et Robert K Brown, voir aussi :

http://kotaku.com/314533/soldier-of-fortune-the-game-the-magazine-the-man



et

http://www.fredoneverything.net/LiveWell.shtml



Cette photo pourrait bien dater du début des années 1980. Elle vient du site de Fred Reed. Sauf erreur de ma part, ce dernier écrivait dans le Washington Times (appartenant à la secte Moon).

http://www.terryaspinall.com/stories/soldiers-of-fortune.html

Extraits :

BROWN ROBERT K Born in Monroe Michigan in the USA on 02.11.32. He served in the Army from October 1954 to September 1957, as an officer in the Intelligence Corp. Upon his release he backed Fidel Castro and had a brief career gun running for him. But after a brief trip to Havana to meet Castro he finally realised that he was and always had been a communist. Betraying all his followers he then set about deposing Castro. Brown also became a very successful journalist and writer on military subjects. After reserve training in 1964 he joined a group getting refugees out of Cuba. And was also involved with a group trying to overthrow the right wing dictatorship in Haiti. In 1968 he rejoined the Army having been kicked out of the special forces a couple of month earlier and went to Vietnam being assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 18th Regiment of the First Infantry Division obtaining the rank of Captain and becoming there intelligence officer. Later commanding the Tong Le Chon Special Forces Camp. He was wounded in an ambush taking 14 fragments from a mortar in his back. Retiring as Lieutenant Colonel Special Forces in January 1985. Dropping back to his writing he establish the very successful Soldier of Fortune magazine, a magazine that is well read by military minded people around the world and is also a contact magazine for personnel looking for that type of work.


WEBER GUY Served in the Belgian Parachute Brigade as a Colonel and went to the Belgium Congo arriving on 10.07.60. But when the Belgian Government pulled out of the country, Guy stayed behind to act as Military Adviser to Tshombe, picking up the nickname of the Shadow.

http://www.meetthenra.org/nra-member/Robert%20K.%20Brown

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Soldier of Fortune Turns 35: An Exceptional Magazine & More

http://prevarication.net/2010/10/soldier-of-fortune-turns-35-an-exceptional-magazine-more/

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=6927

Posted 19 June 2006 - 12:43 PM
This biography of Ulius Louis Amoss appears on the University of Oregon "Subject guide to Conservative and Libertarian materials, in Manuscript collections."

http://libweb.uorego...nservative.html

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Coll. 5, PH 126

I have just been sent a document that is dated 10/9/99 and is stamped EYES ONLY and DO NOT COPY. It includes some very interesting information about Ulius Louis Amoss and Robert Emmett Johnson.

This document points out that Amoss was a member of the OSS. While he was chief of station in Cairo, Egypt, he "recruited, trained and launched numerous teams of assassins that carried out hits on various targets all over North Africa, Southern Europe, Switzerland, Spain and Portugal." General Donovan officially fired Amoss but in reality he was kept on the OSS payroll in an undercover capacity.

After the war he worked for Frank Wisner at the CIA (OPA). That International Services of Information (INFORM) was a CIA "commercial cover" operation. In 1961 Amoss recruited Robert Emmett Johnson. According to this document: "At this time he (Johnson) was already in close touch with the various independent Cuban Exile anti-Communist groups in Miami and elsewhere."

The document goes on to say that in 1962 Johnson, now working for INFORM, was also a member of InterPen. Later that year Johnson invited Robert K. Brown (USAR/CounterIntelligence Corps) to a InterPen meeting in Miami. Brown was the publisher of Alberto Bayo's "100 Questions for a Guerrilla". This book included an article written by Ulius Amoss called "Leaderless Resistance" which "referred to the proper strategy for conducting resistance operations against Castro and inside/outside of Cuba". The document also goes onto say: "Also included were numerous fotos of the G/W instructor cadre of InterPen which were taken by Brown at the Everglades training camp."

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Sur Interpen (Intercontinental Penetration Force) :

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKinterpen.htm

Sur Robert Emmett Johnson :

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKjohnsonRE.htm

(...) Johnson used the aliases Robert Jones and Robert Roman and wrote several article for Soldier of Fortune and True Magazine. He also ghost wrote Trujillo: The Last Cesar for Arturo R. Espaillat, former head of Trujillo’s Military Intelligence Service, and Manual For The Mercenary Soldier under the alias Paul Balor. Robert Emmett Johnson died of throat cancer in 1992.

Sur Robert K Brown :

Lieutenant Colonel, U.S. Army Reserve, (Ret.); Special Forces Team Leader (Viet Nam); OIC Advanced Marksmanship Unit XVIII Corps; Graduate Command and General Staff College; Military Parachutist (wings from U.S., El Salvador, Guatemala, Israel, Peru, Taiwan, Thailand); competitive pistol shooter; African and North American big game hunter; author of numerous articles on guns and shooting.

Sur les "Special Forces"

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Forces

http://www.boulderweekly.com/article-3601-soldier-of-fortunes-35th-anniversary.html

Thursday, October 21,2010

Soldier of Fortune's 35th anniversary

By Paul Danish


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