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| Sujet: Re: Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge) Mar 10 Juil 2012 - 17:26 | |
| Autre "coïncidence" notée sur :
http://www.freepeoples5thestate.com/2011/09/asean-pedogate.html
Dans le parcours de "John Mark Karr" (présumé pédophile ...), on voit l'importance de Boulder au Colorado.
C'est aussi le siège de "Soldier of Fortune" (Robert K. Brown) ...
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| Sujet: Re: Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge) Mar 10 Juil 2012 - 17:34 | |
| Vous ne privilégeriez pas cette piste Hervé, par hazard ? |
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| Sujet: Re: Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge) Mar 10 Juil 2012 - 18:09 | |
| 20 January 2006
Misinformation about "Gladio/Stay Behind" Networks Resurfaces
Thirty Year-Old Soviet Forgery Cited by Researchers
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In December 2005, misinformation resurfaced in Greece claiming, falsely, that a secret “stay behind” network, which the Greek government had set up with CIA assistance, had committed acts of terrorism. During the Cold War, West European countries set up clandestine “stay behind” networks, which were designed to form the nucleus of resistance movements if the Soviet Union invaded and occupied Western Europe.
The Greek writer making the claim – and a Swiss researcher who wrote a 2005 book on the “stay behind” networks – both give credence to a Soviet forgery from the 1970s, which has long been publicly identified as a phony document.
“Gladio,” which means “sword” in Italian, was the name the Italian government chose for the “stay behind” network it established in the early days of the Cold War. Other West European governments formed similar networks.
During World War II, anti-Nazi resistance movements had sprung up throughout Europe, but supplying them by airdrops and other risky measures had been difficult and uncertain. The “stay behind” networks sought to avoid such problems by stockpiling weapons in secret caches ahead of time, and recruiting volunteers who would form the core of resistance movements, if needed. The program remained one of the Cold War’s best-kept secrets until it was revealed in late 1990, first in Italy and then in other West European countries.
Soon after the “stay behind” networks were revealed, some media accounts accused them of misdeeds, including domestic acts of terrorism. In April 1992, some 18 months after Gladio’s disclosure, journalist Jonathan Kwitny wrote in The Nation that, “evidence so far hasn’t supported initial allegations that the secret armies used their hidden C.I.A.-supplied caches of weapons and explosives to carry out political violence that killed civilians.”
Nevertheless, such claims resurfaced on December 18, 2005, in To Proto Thema, Greece’s best-selling investigative/sensationalist Sunday newspaper, which ran a full two-page story by Kleanthis Grivas, headlined, “Terrorism in Post-War Europe.” Grivas accused Greece’s “stay behind” network of several assassinations and bombings.
Some of the claims are clearly absurd. Grivas accused Greece’s “stay behind” network, known as “Sheepskin” or “Red Sheepskin,” which he says was “organized by Greek special forces and the CIA,” of assassinating CIA station chief Richard Welch in Athens in 1975. Thus, Grivas bizarrely accuses the CIA of playing a role in the assassination of one of its own senior officials.
Grivas also accused “Sheepskin” of the assassination in Athens of British military attaché Stephen Saunders in 2000, despite the fact that the Greek government stated it dismantled the “stay behind” network in 1988. In reality, the Greek terrorist organization “17 November” was responsible for both assassinations.
Thirty Year-Old Soviet Forgery Cited by Researchers
Grivas and other prominent “stay behind” researchers appear to have been influenced by a bogus text that first surfaced in 1976, a Soviet forgery purporting to be Supplement B to the U.S. Army’s Field Manual 30-31.
The U.S. Army did have a Field Manual (FM) 30-31 in the 1970s, and a “Supplement A” to it existed, but not a “Supplement B.” The purported “Supplement B” was a forgery apparently concocted by the Soviet disinformation service.
Field Manual 30-31B, also known as the “Westmoreland Manual” because it was purportedly signed by General William Westmoreland, was exposed as a “total fabrication” in February 1980 hearings before the U.S. House of Representatives Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. The Committee hearings state:
In February 1976, a photocopy of the bogus FM 30-31B was left on the bulletin board of the Embassy of the Philippines in Bangkok, Thailand with a cover note from an anonymous “concerned citizen.” This is a typical Soviet bloc practice. Surfacing attracted little attention. FM 30-31B reappeared in 1978 when it was reprinted in two Spanish publications, El Pais (18 September) and El Triunfo (23 September). This was the work of a Spanish communist and a Cuban intelligence officer. Since September 1978, the manual and/or articles concerning it have appeared in the world press in more than 20 countries, including the United States. [Source: Soviet Covert Action (The Forgery Offensive), Hearings before the Subcommittee on Oversight of the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, House of Representatives, 96th Congress, Second Session, February 6, 19, 1980, p. 86.]
The hearings added that, “in summer 1979, the Soviets prepared Portuguese-language copies of the forgery and covertly circulated them among military officers in Lisbon.” (p. 87)
The forgery was written so that it appeared to offer “proof” that the United States was the secret sponsor of terrorist acts in foreign countries, stating, in a section on “Agents in Special Operations:”
There may be times when HC [Host Country] governments show passivity or indecision in the face of Communist or Communist-inspired subversion, and react with inadequate vigor to intelligence estimates transmitted by U.S. agencies. Such situations are particularly likely to arise when the insurgency seeks to achieve tactical advantage by temporarily refraining from violence, thus lulling HC authorities into a state of false security. In such cases, U.S. Army intelligence must have the means of launching special operations which will convince the HC governments and public opinion of the reality of the insurgent danger and of the necessity of counteraction.
To this end, U.S. Army intelligence should seek to penetrate the insurgency by means of agents on special assignment, with the task of forming special action groups among the more radical elements of the insurgency. When the kind of situation envisaged above arises, these groups, acting under U.S. Army intelligence control, should be used to launch violent or nonviolent actions according to the nature of the case. Such actions could include those described in FM 30-31 as characterizing Phase II and III of insurgency.
In cases where the infiltration of such agents into the insurgent leadership has not been effectively implemented, it may help towards the achievement of the above ends to utilize ultra-leftist organizations. [Source: Soviet Covert Action (The Forgery Offensive), p. 184.]
A poor quality copy of the forgery and a declassified cover note describing how it surfaced can be viewed on the Internet.
Grivas and other “stay behind” researchers have treated the Soviet forgery as if it were a real document.
In Grivas’ book, Terrorism: a Privileged Means of Policy Making, he reportedly treats FM 30-31B as if it were authentic. An August 4, 2002 article in the Greek communist weekly Rizospatsis, which stated that it obtained its information from Grivas’ book, saw FM 30-31B as evidence that the United States had been behind the upsurge of radical leftist terrorism in Western Europe in the mid-1970s. It stated:
It is worth noting that the implementation of the Manual coincided with a surge in terrorist activity, such as the RAF [Red Army Faction] in West Germany and the Red Brigades in Italy. It is also worth noting that the activities of 17N [17 November] in Greece began in 1975. It was a critical time that had all the characteristics included in the Manual.
Swiss researcher Daniele Ganser, who works at Zurich’s Center for Security Studies, has also been fooled by the forgery. Ganser treats the forgery as if it was a genuine document in his 2005 book on “stay behind” networks, Secret Armies: Operation Gladio and Terrorism in Western Europe and includes it as a key document on his Web site on the book. Ganser writes, “FM 30-31B is maybe the most important Pentagon document with regard to the stay-behind armies.” He goes on to speculate that the bogus document may provide the blueprint for terrorist acts that occurred during the Cold War in Western Europe.
Former CIA Director Describes Setting Up “Stay Behind” Networks
Former CIA director William Colby wrote about his role in setting up “stay behind” networks in Scandinavia in his 1978 memoir Honorable Men:
One of the main fields of the OPC's [Office of Policy Coordination, the unit in the CIA responsible for paramilitary activities] work then [in 1951] was planning for the not unlikely possibility of a Soviet invasion of Western Europe. And, in the event the Russians succeeded in taking over any or all of the countries of the Continent ... the OPC wanted to be in a position to activate well-armed and well-organized partisan uprisings against the occupiers. But this time, unlike ... similar OSS paramilitary teams that went in to help the French maquis and other resistance movements during World War II, the OPC didn't want to have to arm and organize those partisans after the occupation, using such dangerous and fallible operations as night flights, supply drops, and parachute infiltrations behind enemy lines. No, this time ... we intended to have that resistance capability in place before the occupation, indeed even before an invasion; we were determined to organize and supply it now, while we still had the time in which to do it right and at the minimum of risk. Thus, the OPC had undertaken a major program of building, throughout those Western European countries that seemed likely targets for Soviet attack, what in the parlance of the intelligence trade were known as “stay-behind nets,” clandestine infrastructures of leaders and equipment trained and ready to be called into action as sabotage and espionage forces when the time came. (pp. 81-82)
Colby makes it clear that the NATO allies with whom he worked in Scandinavia were full partners in such plans:
… the governments themselves would build their own stay-behind nets, counting on activating them from exile to carry on the struggle. These nets had to be coordinated with NATO’s plans, their radios had to be hooked to a future exile location, and the specialized equipment had to be secured from CIA and secretly cached in snowy hideouts for later use. (p. 82)
Conclusion
A thirty year-old Soviet forgery has been cited as one of the central pieces of “evidence” for the false notion that West European “stay-behind” networks engaged in terrorism, allegedly at U.S. instigation. This is not true, and those researching the “stay behind” networks need to be more discriminating in evaluating the trustworthiness of their source material.
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(Distributed by the Bureau of International Information Programs, U.S. Department of State. Web site: http://usinfo.state.gov)
Read more: http://www.america.gov/st/pubs-english/2006/January/20060120111344atlahtnevel0.3114282.html#ixzz20EhxAqrw |
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| Sujet: Re: Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge) Mar 10 Juil 2012 - 18:17 | |
| En revanche, des officines privées, des associations internationales contre le Communisme... Ce qui est diffère avec l'Italie, c'est qu'à aucun moment il n'y avait un risque de voir arriver au pouvoir des Communistes ou autres ennemis supposés de Washington. Il serai intéressant de savoir dans ce registre quels étaient les groupes de pression de ce style auprès des Communautés Européennes à Bruxelles par exemple.On peut imaginer plus simplement la manipulations de jeunes WNP qui se seraient estimés couverts (par Smets de la Sûreté ou autres mais pourquoi avoir accusé Raes d'être un agent de l'Est ?). |
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| Sujet: Re: Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge) Mar 10 Juil 2012 - 18:25 | |
| Très probablement !
J'espère que les enquêteurs trouveront quelque chose de concret, qui ne soit pas basé sur de possibles coïncidences, des homonymes, des analogies, des souvenirs ... Nous avons besoin d'un socle solide.
La police scientifique a heureusement fait des progrès énormes en 30 ans ... Je ne doute pas que si des armes sont découvertes - comme la presse le laisse penser - les expertises seront cette fois indiscutables.
Par ailleurs, qu'un journaliste comme Wayne Madsen fasse un long article sur des possibles cas de pédophilie reliant Bangkok et Anvers avec l'aide d'une ou de plusieurs ambassades, cela n'est pas rien ... mais je suis loin d'avoir des certitudes.
Depuis l'affaire Dutroux et les "dossiers X", nous sommes habitués à des phrases comme "Belgium, a noted haven for pedophiles" !
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| Sujet: Re: Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge) Mer 11 Juil 2012 - 4:31 | |
| [quote="CS1958"]20 January 2006
Misinformation about "Gladio/Stay Behind" Networks Resurfaces
(...) Thirty Year-Old Soviet Forgery Cited by Researchers
Conclusion
A thirty year-old Soviet forgery has been cited as one of the central pieces of “evidence” for the false notion that West European “stay-behind” networks engaged in terrorism, allegedly at U.S. instigation. This is not true, and those researching the “stay behind” networks need to be more discriminating in evaluating the trustworthiness of their source material.
(end text)
(Distributed by the Bureau of International Information Programs, U.S. Department of State. Web site: http://usinfo.state.gov) (...)
Petit rappel: les auteurs du démenti sont plus ou moins les même que ceux qui mentaient aux Nations Unies et Congrès Américain trois ans plus tôt pour justifier une intervention militaire dans un certain pays du Moyen Orient ("mais non ça n'a rien n'a voir avec le pétrole !"). 1) "Ce pays sert de sanctuaire à Al Qaeda et ses dirigeants ont joué un rôle dans les attentats du 11 Septembre" 2) "Les dirigeants de ce pays possèdent des armes de destruction massive" etc
Quand bien même le manuel Westmoreland serait un faux et l'oeuvre d'une "opération de désinformation du KGB" , je recommande un scepticisme encore plus grand à l'égard d'une administration dont le talent en matière de désinformation n'a eu d'égal que l'administration Reagan. Se fier aux communiqués officiels de l'administration Bush Jr équivaut à considérer le défunt "Ronnie" comme une source fiable sur l'attachement des "contras" au respect des droits de l'homme et sur le "rôle des sandinistes dans le trafic de drogue". Le voir admettre en direct à la télévision qu'il avait menti quelques jours plus tôt a du être assez savoureux.
En matière de faux et de désinformation impliquant l'administration "W", la plus connue concerne "l'uranium du Niger". On y retrouve d'ailleurs des vétérans européens de la guerre froide et de la stratégie de la tension comme Michael Ledeen (associé du mooniste Arnaud de Borchgrave, du SISMI, et ami de Francisco Pazienza dans les années 70-80). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_uranium_forgeries http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ledeen
Les gens de Washington ont toujours pris leurs interlocuteurs (et leurs concitoyens) pour des c..., et c'était plus vrai que jamais sous "Deubeuliou" ("W").Jusqu'au moment où le Congrès et le Sénat se sont rendus compte qu'ils s'étaient faits couillonner.
Qu'a dit le sénateur Jay Rockefeller, président du "Select Committee on Intelligence" lors de la publication de son rapport en Juin 2008 ?
A U.S. Senate report today directly accused the Bush administration of distorting evidence to justify the war in Iraq. The Intelligence Committee's long-delayed report echoed similar charges made in recent years. The committee said President Bush and top aides exaggerated links between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida. And it said they ignored doubts by U.S. intelligence agencies about Iraq's weapons capabilities.
The Democratic chairman, Senator John Rockefeller of West Virginia, underlined the importance of the findings. "You don't get to tell the truth just some of the time when going to war. The American people expect the government to tell the truth all the time. In too many instances in making the case for war, administration officials distorted the facts or said things that were not supported by the facts, said things that they knew or should have known were not true."
6/5/08. Richard Clarke on Senate report: Bush, Cheney Lied https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wwh8YZkKgSM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdri8ox0z3M
Voir aussi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Report_on_Pre-war_Intelligence_on_Iraq#Niger_and_the_Iraqi_nuclear_program
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| Sujet: Re: Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge) Ven 13 Juil 2012 - 13:46 | |
| Pour information, voir le site : http://www.cephas-library.com/nwo/nwo_history_of_the_christian_right_movement.html Je ne sais pas ce qu'il faut en penser mais on y trouve ce qui suit (et cela semble correct) : "Civilian Material Assistance...was founded in 1983 by Tom Posey, a former Marine Corporal, John Bircher and Ku Klux Klansman..."We like to think of ourselves as missionary-mercenaries," explained Posey..." avec un long passage sur Robert K Brown et sur Soldier of Fortune : (...) Robert K. Brown -CNP 1988; also according to attendance to CNP Board of Governors meeting, List of Member Participants Dallas, Texas, August 17-18, 1984, and financial contributions to CNP for at least four years. [Covert Action #34 p.20, Bellant]; he is founder/editor/publisher of Soldier of Fortune magazine (SOF), a mercenary magazine; president, Omega Group Ltd, parent group of SOF; former special agent, Counter Intelligence Corps; Special Forces "A" Team leader; Lieutenant Colonel, U.S. Army Reserve, (Ret.); Special Forces Team Leader (Viet Nam); OIC Advanced Marksmanship Unit XVIII Corps; Graduate Command and General Staff College; Military Parachutist (wings from U.S., El Salvador, Guatemala, Israel, Peru, Taiwan, Thailand; smuggled from Afghanistan 5,000 rounds 5.45mm Com Bloc ammo to U.S. Government (first test sample in U.S.). Director/member of Executive Committee for two years, past member of Public Affairs and Finance Committees. Currently member of Legislative Policy, Grassroots Development, Publications Policies, Action Shooting and Range Development Committees. Has supported and funded pro-gun candidates for state legislatures, House of Representatives and U.S. Senate; combat correspondent and investigative journalist. [Brown] Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman, Sept. 22, 1999 issued a proclamation declaring that day to be "Soldier of Fortune Day" and "Lt. Col. Robert K. Brown Day" in honor of Soldier of Fortune magazine, its 20th annual convention in Las Vegas, and its founder and publisher." Brown was Vice Chair on the Nominating Committee of the National Rifle Association (NRA) [SOF] In addition to publishing Soldier of Fortune, the Omega Group publishes two other gun magazines: Guns & Action and Combat Weapons.(1)...Calling themselves "action journalists," many of SOF's reporters have come under fire for participating in the training of counterrevolutionary groups in El Salvador and Nicaragua. SOF claims to have sent over a dozen training teams to El Salvador in the early 1980's to train government troops in sniping, anti-guerrilla urban warfare, explosives and weapons maintenance.(10,11) The magazine's "Expanded Central America Edition" (Sept. 1983), which coincided with the group's training trip to El Salvador, showed a picture of a Salvadoran soldier and two members of the magazine's group crouching around the bodies of two dead guerrillas. Robert J. McCartney, author of an article about SOF, claims that "The picture clearly resembled photographs that hunters take after they have bagged a deer."(11)[Group Watch: SOF] According to Bellant's article in Covert Action, Soldier of Fortune has regularly praised pro-Nazi individuals and groups, and promotes the sale of Nazi regalia. SOF started in 1975 in sympathy with the racist regime of Rhodesia. In recent years, SOF staff have trained Salvadoran military units in urban warfare. [Soldiers of Fortune, March 1985, p.74; August 1984, pp 50-52] "In February 1985, former Justice Department attorney John Loftus sent Congress a report detailing his suspicions that [William] Casey and [General John] Singlaub [CNP], using the World Anti-Communist League, had resurrected an old private conduit system for laundering money to "freedom fighters." The old conduit was Crusade for Freedom, a public charity established by retired General Lucius Clay that provided "private" support for the National Committee for a Free Europe (now Radio Free Europe) and the American Committee for Liberation (now Radio Liberty). The Two committees-home to Nazis and Nazi collaborators who, as Loftus noted, migrated to WACL--were secretly laundering government money to Eastern Europe insurgents at the direction of the NSC and the State Department's clandestine Office of Policy Coordination..."close to 20 privately incorporated U.S. groups have reportedly sent...aid...to Nicaraguan refugees in Honduras and to the contras themselves...[The] driving forces behind the major groups are a small group of about a half a dozen men, most of whom have military or paramilitary experience...The contra auxiliary includes the World Anti-Communist League and it's U.S. Council for World Freedom, the American Security Council, Council for Inter-American Security and Western Goals [defunct spy group of John Birch Society] ... Among the other key groups in the auxiliary are the following: The Florida-based Air Commandos Association, led by retired Brigadier General Harry "Heinie" Aderholt, is a group of approximately 1,600 past and present members of the U.S. Special Forces. Aderholt, Soldier of Fortune's unconventional warfare editor, coordinated the joint CIA-Pentagon-AID program to proivde "humanitarian" relief to the Hmong secret army in Laos and served as chief of covert air operations in Singlaub's Special Operations Group... Soldier of Fortune...was founded in 1975 by the Colorado-based Omega Group headed by retired Lt. Col. Robert K. Brown, a veteran of the Phoenix program and special operations in Laos and ex-mercenary in white-ruled Rhodesia. Brown sports a T-shirt boasting, "I Was Killing When Killing Wasn't Cool." Soldier of Fortune (SOF) runs articles on counterinsurgency warfare, glamorizes training and combat missions by SOF personnel, advertises weapons and mercenary services and encourages donations to its affiliated El Salvador/Nicaragua Defense Fund, which printed and distributed some 500 copies of the CIA contra manual, and Refugee Relief International, which provides medical training and supplies to El Salvador and the contras. Refugee Relief is led by Thomas Reisinger, the assistant director of SOF for special projects; board members include Singlaub, Aderholt and SOF Military Affairs Editor Alexander McColl. (In March 1988, a Texas jury ordered Soldier of Fortune to pay $9.4 million in damages to the family of a woman killed by a hit man her husband had hired through a classified ad in the magazine...) The CIA contra manual is mild compared to some of the murder and sabotage manuals SOF promotes, with such titles as How to Kill Vols. I-V, Hit Man ("Learn how a pro makes a living at this craft without landing behind bars"), Techniques of Harassment and Elementary Field Interrogation. The last manual includes explicit instructions for psychological and physical torture..." (...) __________________ J'ai déjà dit tout le bien que je pense de John Loftus ! http://www.infowars.com/americas-nazi-secret-with-author-john-loftus/ America’s Nazi Secret with Author John Loftus Infowars.com Sunday, July 8, 2012 Un extrait de son dernier livre est sur : http://www.scribd.com/doc/77666691/America-s-Nazi-Secret Selon lui, il faut distinguer, après la seconde guerre mondiale, la CIA ("démocrate") et l'OPC ("les cow-boys de Frank Wisner I") dépendant du State Department et "républicain". Je crois que c'est le second courant qui a créé les "Stay-behinds" en Europe. C'est également ce second courant qui a récupéré les nazis (y compris des criminels de guerre) pour la lutte contre les communistes ... Cela vaut la peine d'étudier ce point pour ne pas voir la CIA comme un bloc monolithique ... __________________ Pour information, Robert K Brown est au centre de la photo (récente) de droite, avec d'autres "snipers" ... Il s'est aussi intéressé aux silencieux et il a édité le livre suivant : http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/2000728 |
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| Sujet: Re: Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge) Ven 13 Juil 2012 - 15:17 | |
| - HERVE a écrit:
Pour information, voir le site :
http://www.cephas-library.com/nwo/nwo_history_of_the_christian_right_movement.html
Je ne sais pas ce qu'il faut en penser mais on y trouve ce qui suit (et cela semble correct) :
"Civilian Material Assistance...was founded in 1983 by Tom Posey, a former Marine Corporal, John Bircher and Ku Klux Klansman..."We like to think of ourselves as missionary-mercenaries," explained Posey..."
avec un long passage sur Robert K Brown et sur Soldier of Fortune :
(...)
Robert K. Brown -CNP 1988; also according to attendance to CNP Board of Governors meeting, List of Member Participants Dallas, Texas, August 17-18, 1984, and financial contributions to CNP for at least four years. [Covert Action #34 p.20, Bellant]; he is founder/editor/publisher of Soldier of Fortune magazine (SOF), a mercenary magazine; president, Omega Group Ltd, parent group of SOF; former special agent, Counter Intelligence Corps; Special Forces "A" Team leader;
Lieutenant Colonel, U.S. Army Reserve, (Ret.); Special Forces Team Leader (Viet Nam); OIC Advanced Marksmanship Unit XVIII Corps; Graduate Command and General Staff College; Military Parachutist (wings from U.S., El Salvador, Guatemala, Israel, Peru, Taiwan, Thailand; smuggled from Afghanistan 5,000 rounds 5.45mm Com Bloc ammo to U.S. Government (first test sample in U.S.). Director/member of Executive Committee for two years, past member of Public Affairs and Finance Committees. Currently member of Legislative Policy, Grassroots Development, Publications Policies, Action Shooting and Range Development Committees. Has supported and funded pro-gun candidates for state legislatures, House of Representatives and U.S. Senate; combat correspondent and investigative journalist. [Brown]
Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman, Sept. 22, 1999 issued a proclamation declaring that day to be "Soldier of Fortune Day" and "Lt. Col. Robert K. Brown Day" in honor of Soldier of Fortune magazine, its 20th annual convention in Las Vegas, and its founder and publisher."
Brown was Vice Chair on the Nominating Committee of the National Rifle Association (NRA) [SOF]
In addition to publishing Soldier of Fortune, the Omega Group publishes two other gun magazines: Guns & Action and Combat Weapons.(1)...Calling themselves "action journalists," many of SOF's reporters have come under fire for participating in the training of counterrevolutionary groups in El Salvador and Nicaragua. SOF claims to have sent over a dozen training teams to El Salvador in the early 1980's to train government troops in sniping, anti-guerrilla urban warfare, explosives and weapons maintenance.(10,11) The magazine's "Expanded Central America Edition" (Sept. 1983), which coincided with the group's training trip to El Salvador, showed a picture of a Salvadoran soldier and two members of the magazine's group crouching around the bodies of two dead guerrillas. Robert J. McCartney, author of an article about SOF, claims that "The picture clearly resembled photographs that hunters take after they have bagged a deer."(11)[Group Watch: SOF]
According to Bellant's article in Covert Action, Soldier of Fortune has regularly praised pro-Nazi individuals and groups, and promotes the sale of Nazi regalia. SOF started in 1975 in sympathy with the racist regime of Rhodesia. In recent years, SOF staff have trained Salvadoran military units in urban warfare. [Soldiers of Fortune, March 1985, p.74; August 1984, pp 50-52]
"In February 1985, former Justice Department attorney John Loftus sent Congress a report detailing his suspicions that [William] Casey and [General John] Singlaub [CNP], using the World Anti-Communist League, had resurrected an old private conduit system for laundering money to "freedom fighters." The old conduit was Crusade for Freedom, a public charity established by retired General Lucius Clay that provided "private" support for the National Committee for a Free Europe (now Radio Free Europe) and the American Committee for Liberation (now Radio Liberty). The Two committees-home to Nazis and Nazi collaborators who, as Loftus noted, migrated to WACL--were secretly laundering government money to Eastern Europe insurgents at the direction of the NSC and the State Department's clandestine Office of Policy Coordination..."close to 20 privately incorporated U.S. groups have reportedly sent...aid...to Nicaraguan refugees in Honduras and to the contras themselves...[The] driving forces behind the major groups are a small group of about a half a dozen men, most of whom have military or paramilitary experience...The contra auxiliary includes the World Anti-Communist League and it's U.S. Council for World Freedom, the American Security Council, Council for Inter-American Security and Western Goals [defunct spy group of John Birch Society] ...
Among the other key groups in the auxiliary are the following:
The Florida-based Air Commandos Association, led by retired Brigadier General Harry "Heinie" Aderholt, is a group of approximately 1,600 past and present members of the U.S. Special Forces. Aderholt, Soldier of Fortune's unconventional warfare editor, coordinated the joint CIA-Pentagon-AID program to proivde "humanitarian" relief to the Hmong secret army in Laos and served as chief of covert air operations in Singlaub's Special Operations Group...
Soldier of Fortune...was founded in 1975 by the Colorado-based Omega Group headed by retired Lt. Col. Robert K. Brown, a veteran of the Phoenix program and special operations in Laos and ex-mercenary in white-ruled Rhodesia. Brown sports a T-shirt boasting, "I Was Killing When Killing Wasn't Cool." Soldier of Fortune (SOF) runs articles on counterinsurgency warfare, glamorizes training and combat missions by SOF personnel, advertises weapons and mercenary services and encourages donations to its affiliated El Salvador/Nicaragua Defense Fund, which printed and distributed some 500 copies of the CIA contra manual, and Refugee Relief International, which provides medical training and supplies to El Salvador and the contras. Refugee Relief is led by Thomas Reisinger, the assistant director of SOF for special projects; board members include Singlaub, Aderholt and SOF Military Affairs Editor Alexander McColl. (In March 1988, a Texas jury ordered Soldier of Fortune to pay $9.4 million in damages to the family of a woman killed by a hit man her husband had hired through a classified ad in the magazine...)
The CIA contra manual is mild compared to some of the murder and sabotage manuals SOF promotes, with such titles as How to Kill Vols. I-V, Hit Man ("Learn how a pro makes a living at this craft without landing behind bars"), Techniques of Harassment and Elementary Field Interrogation. The last manual includes explicit instructions for psychological and physical torture..."
(...)
__________________
J'ai déjà dit tout le bien que je pense de John Loftus !
http://www.infowars.com/americas-nazi-secret-with-author-john-loftus/
America’s Nazi Secret with Author John Loftus
Infowars.com Sunday, July 8, 2012
Un extrait de son dernier livre est sur :
http://www.scribd.com/doc/77666691/America-s-Nazi-Secret
Selon lui, il faut distinguer, après la seconde guerre mondiale, la CIA ("démocrate") et l'OPC ("les cow-boys de Frank Wisner I") dépendant du State Department et "républicain". Je crois que c'est le second courant qui a créé les "Stay-behinds" en Europe. C'est également ce second courant qui a récupéré les nazis (y compris des criminels de guerre) pour la lutte contre les communistes ...
Cela vaut la peine d'étudier ce point pour ne pas voir la CIA comme un bloc monolithique ...
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Pour information, Robert K Brown est au centre de la photo (récente) de droite, avec d'autres "snipers" ... Il s'est aussi intéressé aux silencieux et il a édité le livre suivant :
http://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/2000728
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| C'est Michel qui me l'a expliqué ...
Il faut répondre ou ouvrir un nouveau message.
La photo doit se trouver sur votre disque dur ou une clé usb.
Parmi les icônes, cliquez sur "héberger une image" (6° à partir de la gauche ?) puis choisissez un fichier (de votre disque dur ou d'une clé USB), sélectionner votre photo, envoyer.
Une fenêtre avec trois champs va apparaitre. Copier le code du milieu (en cliquant le bouton à droite du champ) et placer le dans le message.
La photo apparaitra sur le forum avec "prévisualisation" (on peut alors continuer le texte) ou avec "envoyer".
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| Ak OK...Merci.
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Pour information ...
... un lien entre Moon, Singlaub et Soldier of Fortune : "Refugee Relief International"
http://www.cephas-library.com/nwo/nwo_history_of_the_christian_right_movement.html
Refugee Relief International is an affiliate of CAUSA and US chapter of WACL, and involves John Singlaub, as well as working with Andy Messing's National Defense Council. Messing is a member of Singlaub's American chapter of WACL, the U.S. Council for World Freedom. It operates RRI jointly with Soldier of Fortune. [ Anderson, 129,183, 238, 256]
www.rense.com/general21/unholy3.htm
Maj. General John K. Singlaub
Formerly of the OSS (forerunner of the CIA), Former Deputy Chief CIA in Korea (Moon's homeland), and also at the Chinese desk of the CIA(2), Head of the Joint Unconventional Warfare Task Force(1), and was with the American Security council. Singlaub denies association with Operation Phoenix, though his Task Force was in charge of it. Operation Phoenix was an assassination organization that was responsible for the death of many thousands of Vietnamese civilians.(1), Chief of Staff of the U.N. Command in Korea, forced to retire under Jimmy Carter.(1) He founded the U.S. Council of World Freedom, which is very tightly associated with Rev. Moon's World Anti-Communist League. His Council has been a breeding ground for Moon's WACL organization.(1) He met repeatedly with William Casey of the CIA, Elliot Abrams of the State Department, and Oliver North of the NSC between 1980 and 1986, all of which were involved in the "drugs for guns" debacle in Honduras and Nicaragua.(4) He was head of the USCWF, Chairman of Moon's WACL (World Anti-Communist League), Refugee Relief International, board member of Tim Lahaye's Council of National Policy (Singlaub raised at least $100,000 for Moon's WACL from Tim Lahaye's CNP group during just 1 fundraiser (3). Singlaub has been with Western Goals (a group dedicated to surveillance of American "subversives"), and the British arm of Western Goals(4). In an interview for CBSs' "60 Minutes" Mike Wallace asked him, "Singlaub has become Ronald Reagan's secret weapon to sidestep a congress that will not permit him to act in the areas where he believes that our (national) security interests are at stake.True?" Singlaub responded "True"(14). His association with these groups were to effect the toppling and restructuring of governments. He did this largely through LaHaye's CNP and the Council of 56 Religious Roundtable. He has admitted that the Defense Department organized the private aid (1), which largely included Moon's NFF, WACL, Heritage Foundation, And Tim LaHaye's CNP and The Religious Roundtable.
1. Scott Anderson, Jon Lee Anderson, Inside the League: The Shocking Expose of How Terrorists, Nazis, and Latin American Death Squads Have Infiltrated the WACL. NYNY: Dodd, Mead and Co. 1986
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www.mail-archive.com/ctrl@listserv.aol.com/msg28512.html
The group Refugee Relief International Inc.(RRII) was created by SOF. Tom Reisinger is the president and is also associated with SOF.(1) The group has sent $4.5 million to the Salvadoran Military forces.(15) It provides medical training and supplies to the contras and El Salvador.(1) Its stated purpose is to supply private medical aid to countries such as El Salvador thereby freeing U.S. foreign aid to be re-allocated for military aid and other assistance.(15) RRII medics and doctors travel with the Salvadoran Army treating wounded soldiers and peasants as part of the army's civic action program. Singlaub, Aderholt, and McColl all sit on the board of directors of this group. As a funding pitch the group states "For the price of a case of beer you can help save a life and get a blow in at communism at the same time."(1)
1. The Resource Center, The New Right Humanitarians, 1986.
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http://www.refugeerelief.org/
Refugee Relief International, Inc. 2995 Woodside Road #400-244 Woodside, CA 94062 email: info@refugeerelief.org
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Quelques compléments (parfois critiques) au sujet du message précédent ...
Sur le livre " Inside the League : ... " :
http://articles.latimes.com/1986-09-28/books/bk-9569_1_death-squads
http://www.amazon.com/Inside-League-Terrorists-Infiltrated-Anti-Communist/dp/0396085172
http://www.123helpme.com/view.asp?id=4351
Sur le site "Cephas Library" :
Il utilise quelques sources fiables comme CAIB/CAQ mais est trop "exalté" :
http://www.cephasministry.com/disclaimer.html
All our websites are sponsored by Cephas Ministry Inc. and WE ARE NOT AFFILIATED WITH NOR support, or endorse any political or religious organizations that do not line up with the KJV Bible. [NB: KJV = "King James Version Bible"]. When they claim that they line up and don't, they can lead an individual believer to eternal hell
Ce qui ne veut pas dire qu'il n'existe pas des organisations confessionnelles ou oecuméniques qui ont produit de bons travaux d'investigation ou fourni des informations précieuses, et qui sont d'ailleurs citées comme sources par CAIB et d'autres publications.
On peut penser à
"Christians Against Racism and Fascism" (CARAF) qui a publié u
"Beyond the pale. The Christian political fringe" (D. Knight, 1982).
http://www.scribd.com/doc/64364915/Beyond-the-Pale-by-Derrick-Knight
On y mentionne notamment SOF et le recrutement de mercenaires :
(page 138)
Church Mercenaries
In extreme right-wing circles in the United States there is often a strange fascination with both religious iustifications of political opinions, and imposition of those opinions by means of extreme violence. This often takes the form either of attacks on black people locally, or of mercenary service with armies anywhere that seem to be fighting people of other.-races - albeit in the name of opposing communism. It is striking that many of the most active supporters of South Africa within the churches have a military background, and that their most useful allies are some members of the powerful American Legion, which represents the veterans of many American wars including those in Korea and Vietnam. Veterans are the major source of recruits to the mercenary armies of southern Africa. Several mercenary recruitment organizations call themselves 'Christian'.
In the June 1980 edition of the mercenary iournal Soldier of Fortune, amongst the classified advertisements for all kinds of weaponry, books on garrotting and knuckleduster paperweights, the following appeared:
'Wanted. Patriots, especially military veterans, who are interested in preparing for the soon-coming political, social, economic and military disruption of our country. Write Christian Patriots Defense League or Citizens Emergency Defense System, Box 565K, Flora, 111.'
The author was not surprised to receive a copy of a letter to CLSA's Fred Shaw from one of these mercenary groups. Dated 8 August 1978, it is from the Intemational Security Force, 249 Church Street, Elberton, Georgia, and reads as follows:
'I have recently received a copy of your newspaper Encounter and would like to offer the services of my organization in the conflict between the Christian community and communism on the African continent. We are a group of Vietnam combat veterans who feel that the differences between Christianity and communism must finally be settled on the battlefield. The slaughter of innocent whites and blacks in Rhodesia is indicative of the teachings of communism.'
Hundreds, if not thousands of these American veterans signed up as mercenaries in the Rhodesian civil war, and before that in Angola and elsewhere. Their actions showed only too clearly that their idea of 'Christianity' is killing and maiming black people. Some of those who remain in the United States support the cause by racist and pro-South African propaganda.
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A noter aussi que dans le "courrier des lecteurs" de Soldier of Fortune (vol. 31 - 2006 ?), il y a une lettre d'un Belge nommé Régis Panisi ... à mon avis quelqu'un de l'ULB. Comme quoi il y a des gens très différents qui lisent ce magazine ...
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On a mentionné le général Aderholt qui travaillait avec Vang Pao pendant l'intervention américaine au Laos et qui a peut-être continué à l'équiper via son ONG pseudo-humanitaire, "World Medical Relief". Est-ce la même que "Aide Medicale Internationale", qui envoyait des médecins aux guerrilleros anticommunistes laotiens dans les années 80) ?
Ce qui montre qu'il faut aller au-delà des mots et que "humanitaire" cache parfois de curieuses pratiques.
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Des liens existaient entre Moon et la WACL (notamment via l'APACL et Ryoichi Sasakawa ) mais il s'agit de deux organisations distinctes.D'ailleurs le noyau asiatique de la WACL, l'Asian Peoples Anticommunist League (APACL) existait déjà bien avant la montée en puissance de Moon.
J.F.Boyer, L'Empire Moon, chp 17, p.244
Le noyau fondateur de la WACL est asiatique. En pleine guerre de Corée [1950-1953], les leaders anticommunistes de la région ressentent le besoin de s'appuyer sur une structure commune qui fera pièce au Kominform. Dès la fin de la guerre, Syngman Rhee, le Coréen du Sud, et Tchang Kaï-chek, le Chinois de Taiwan, portent sur les fonts baptismaux l' APACL - Asian People's Anti Communist League (...)
A l'époque de la création de l'APACL par les puissances anticommunistes de la région (vers 1954-1955 ?) , Moon était un obscur tocard, qui en était encore à prêcher dans une misérable cabane de zinc rouillé, et il n'avait peut-être qu'une dizaine de fidèles. Il a été arrêté par la police sud-coréenne et jugé parce que ses voisins l'accusaient d'être un pervers hédoniste (les offices de son église avaient lieu la nuit et les participants en transe poussaient des cris équivoques etc). Il a cependant été acquitté faute de preuves en Octobre 1955.
C'est seulement à partir des années 60 que les moonistes joueront un rôle important dans l'APACL, mais celle-ci ne représente qu'une partie de la WACL. On peut dire qu'il y a une proximité entre la WACL et Moon via l'APACL, mais dire "la WACL du Révérend Moon" relève de l'amalgame et de l'approximation.
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Une "fiche" sur le CNP :
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/Council_for_National_Policy/ Résultats d'une recherche sur ce site en utilisant CNP comme mots-clés:
http://rightweb.irc-online.org/index.php/sitesearch/searchresults/search&keywords=CNP&Search=Search/
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L'empire Moon (J.F.Boyer, 1986), chapitre 17
"Moon, la « guerre privée» et la Ligue anticommuniste mondiale" p.242-243
(...) Depuis deux ans, le général [Singlaub] frappe avec succès à la porte des grandes associations conservatrices. En avril 1985, il obtient 100 000 dollars des participants à une réunion du Council For National Policy, un lobby ultra-conservateur qui regroupe politiciens, hommes d' affaires et leaders religieux, engagés dans le soutien à la contre-révolution nicaraguayenne. C 'est, parmi d'autres, le cas de Pat Robertson, président de la plus grande chaîne de télévision religieuse américaine - Christian Broadcasting Network (28 millions de téléspectateurs potentiels) - qui vient de lancer sur son antenne une spectaculaire collecte pour la Contra baptisée - si j'ose m'exprimer ainsi - « Opération Bénédiction ». Le général n'éprouve aucun mal à convaincre ses interlocuteurs. En effet,' peu de temps après le refus du Congrès, en octobre 1984, d'accorder de nouveaux crédits pour armer la Contra, c'est le Council for National Policy qui a pris la responsabilité de coordonner l'aide privée aux antisandinistes. On retrouve ainsi au CNP la plupart des responsables d'organisations de soutien présentes dans les camps à la frontière sud du Honduras. John K. Singlaub est, bien entendu, membre du conseil de direction du CNP. Il affirme que "ses efforts bénéficient du soutien de la Maison Banche, du Pentagone et du Département d'État". On apprendra six mois plus tard que le CNP applique un plan de contre-insurrection étudié par un comité ad hoc du Pentagone - animé par Singlaub lui-même - qui n'a pu être mis en oeuvre officiellement à cause de la défaillance du Congrès: Le ministère de la Défense suit donc avec sympathie les progrès de la "guerre privée".
Le rapport de l'Arms Control and Foreign Policy Caucus - cité plus haut - intitulé Qui sont les Contras? Qui aide les Contras ? relève que Singlaub dirige ou inspire directement cinq des treize principaux groupes collecteurs de fonds. Il travaille en particulier la main dans la main avec les responsables de Soldier of Fortune, un magazine d'information pour mercenaires qui suit de très près l'évolution des armes et des techniques de guérilla et contre-guérilla. Soldier of Fortune, qui dans le passé a recruté des hommes pour le gouvernement blanc de Rhodésie, semblerait avoir convaincu quelques Britanniques et quelques Français de l'impérieuse nécessité de se joindre aux «combattants de la liberté». Moyennant 400 dollars par semaine et des assurances individuelles impressionnantes ! Le rédacteur en chef du magazine ne cache pas en tout cas avoir fourni de l'équipement paramilitaire aux Nicaraguayens.
Pour les liens WACL-Moon selon Boyer, voir le chp17 à partir de la p.247 ou "9/21" (sous-chapitre "Victoire sur le communisme" ) et vérifier autres chapitres.
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For God's sake. The Christian Right and US foreign policy (Lee Marsden, 2008)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/69235796/For-God-s-Sake-The-Christian-Right-and-US-Foreign-Policy-Lee-Marsden
p.16 The Christian Right emerged as a forceful player in the Republican Party following the humiliating defeat of Barry Goldwater by Lyndon Johnson in the presidential elections of 1964 (Goldwater only collected fifty-two electoral college votes). Paul Weyrich, one of Goldwater’s advisers, was determined to avoid such humiliations in future by expanding the base of the Republican Party. In 1973 he formed an influential think-tank, the Heritage Foundation (...) In 1981, Weyrich and Tim LaHaye were also instrumental in the formation of the Council for National Policy (CNP), which brought together leading members of the Christian Right, corporate executives, financiers, gun lobbyists, and political operatives within the Republican Party. (...)
p.29-32 Council for National Policy A secretive organization known as the Council for National Policy (CNP) was set up in Reagan’s first year in office, 1981. The CNP, like the Religious Roundtable, sought to bring together movers and shakers within the emerging Christian Right. Unlike McAteer’s group, however, the CNP sought to include business magnates, financiers, corporate executives, media moguls, judges, conservative Republicans and politicians, as well as Christian Right leaders. The CNP today claims a membership of over 600, and is committed to the ‘free enterprise system, a strong national defense, and support for traditional western values’.2 The CNP does not lobby government; rather, it is a group that seeks to build close personal relationships in a shared endeavour to achieve common goals. The group’s secretive nature reflects an approach to the political process that seeks to achieve objectives without accountability or scrutiny by the democratic polity. The membership list is confidential but was leaked for several years during the 1990s by the now defunct Institute for First Amendment Studies (IFAS). The CNP’s membership list and executive board read like a who’s who of the Christian and conservative right. Members have included congressional representatives Dan Burton, John Doolittle, Ernest Istook, Jack Kemp and former Leaders of the House Richard Armey and Tom DeLay. Senators include D.M. ‘Launch’ Faircloth, former chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Jesse Helms, Jon Kyl, Republican whip Trent Lott and Don Nickles. Other political leaders include former attorneys general Edwin Meese and John Ashcroft, Reagan domestic policy adviser Kenneth Cribb, and former health and human services secretary Tommy Thompson. Morton Blackwell served as a special assistant to Ronald Reagan in the White House and tycoon Joseph Coors organized a kitchen cabinet with regular access to the president, in the Executive Office Building, until removed. Gary Bauer was White House adviser on policy development. Phyllis Schlafly served on Reagan’s Defense Policy Advisory Group and advocated strongly in favour of Star Wars. Eagle Forum actually became an NGO with special consultative status at the United Nations with the Economic and Social Council (IFAS, 1998; Leaming and Boston, 2004). Leaders of Christian Right organizations represented in the CNP include: Paul Weyrich; Pat Robertson, founder of the Christian Broadcasting Network and the voice of Christian America for much of the world; Charles ‘Chuck’ Colson, former member of the Nixon administration, sentenced to prison for his part in the Watergate scandal, and founder of the Prison Fellowship Ministries in 1976 ; James Dobson, a leading Christian commentator on child raising and the family, and the founder of FOF; Michael Farris, founder of the Home School Legal Defense Association and Patrick Henry College, a training centre for future Christian Right political leaders. Also Tim and Bev LaHaye, Ed McAteer and Christian Reconstructionist writer Gary North are members, as are Tony Perkins, one of the leading second-generation Christian Right leaders and president of the FRC, and Ralph Reed, former head of the Christian Coalition and adviser to the Bush campaign in 2000. In 2006, Reed failed in a bid to become lieutenant governor of Georgia, after being implicated in the Abramoff lobbying scandal, involving Native American gambling money (Stone, 2006). The list also includes Rick Scarborough, founder of Vision America and a leading force in turning out Christian Values Voters in 2006 and 2008. Others have included the late Rousas Rushdoony, D. James Kennedy, Jerry Falwell and Bill Bright, founder of Campus Crusade for Christ (CCC). The thrice-yearly meetings of the CNP provide an excellent opportunity for Christian Right ministers to meet with like-minded financially wealthy backers and key opinion formers to determine strategy for influencing Republican administrations. Key members of the CNP and benefactors of this and other organizations include Ed and Elsa Prince, who have supported the FRC, Howard Ahmanson Jr, who has supported Rushdoony’s Chalcedon movement, Weyrich’s Free Congress Foundation (FCF), the Rutherford Institute and the think-tank Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).3
The Coors brewing magnates have generously supported FCF and conservative think-tank the Heritage Foundation. The DeVos family, founders of the Amway direct-selling organization, have financed FRC and Robert Schuller Ministries. The brewing and energy company family of Herbert and Nelson Bunker Hunt have supported Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN), Campus Crusade for Christ, the Summer Institute of Linguistics (SIL) and Wycliffe Associates (IFAS, 1998; Leaming and Boston, 2004).
This secretive network equipped the Christian Right with major resources, which they were later able to supplement through the giving of organization members and supporters. Under the Reagan administration, the Christian Right enjoyed unprecedented access to the White House through the CNP and Joseph Coors’s kitchen cabinet. Edwin Meese had served as Reagan’s chief of staff during his governorship in California and played a pivotal role throughout Reagan’s double term as president. Meese later went on to work at the Heritage Foundation, a think-tank to which he had earlier promised that ‘this administration will cooperate fully with your efforts’ (Leaming and Boston, 2004).
The Christian Right and Reagan foreign policy
In terms of foreign policy, the Christian Right directed their efforts towards anti-communist initiatives advocated overtly and covertly by the administration. Ever since Karl Marx called for the abolition of religion, that ‘opium of the people’, in his Introduction to a Contribution to the Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right, communism has been viewed as the arch-enemy of Christian evangelicals. The persecution of Christians by communist authorities throughout the world served to strengthen this hostility. The Christian Right therefore enthusiastically supported Reagan’s arms race and his powerful invective against the Soviet Union. A meeting of the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) was an obvious setting for Reagan’s ‘evil empire’ speech, and the Christian Right remained his most fervent supporters. Oliver North and General John Singlaub, former head of theWorld Anti-Communist League, both members of the CNP, were involved in the covert military operations in Central America and in the supporting of the Nicaraguan Contras that did so much to discredit the Reagan administration. Jerry Falwell’s Moral Majority, Pat Robertson’s Freedom Council and the Heritage Foundation were among a number of right-wing groups involved with the Reagan administration’s Outreach Working Party on Central America, devising strategy and propaganda in support of a campaign of targeted killings and other anti-communist activity (IFAS, 1998; Diamond, 1995a). Christian Right support for US oil and business interests in South America (Perkins, 2006), the Contras and fellow evangelical Rios Montt in Guatemala have all had long-term repercussions for America’s relationship with countries in its self-proclaimed backyard.
Christian Voice and the Unification Church
A more surprising source of Christian Right funding came from Sun Myung Moon’s Unification Church, which, through the Coalition for Religious Freedom and the American Freedom Coalition, supported Christian Voice and collaborations with Christian Right leaders including Tim LaHaye, Don Wildmon, Hal Lindsay, Paul Crouch (Trinity Broadcasting Network), James Robison, Jimmy Swaggart and D. James Kennedy (IFAS, 1998). In the quest for power, conservative evangelicals have been prepared to jettison long-standing theological objections to Catholicism, the Unification Church and, later, the Mormons, preferring to achieve temporal political objectives rather than seeking to maintain theological integrity (Shupe and Heinerman, 1985). They were willing to make common cause with any group that espoused conservative social values, a belief in free enterprise, and virulent anti-communism.
p.35 (...) The relationship between the Christian Right and financial wealth has led to scandals that have been an integral part of the movement since the late 1970s. In addition to questions of propriety raised about the connection of leading conservative evangelicals to the Moonie cult, through financial support by the Unification Church, there have been further scandals. Pat Robertson’s Operation Blessing ministry diverted airplanes from delivering medical supplies to Congo refugees to transporting diamond-mining equipment for Robertson’s African Development Corporation (Palast, 2003: 236–7). feature of the American political process.
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| Un ami (que je remercie) me rappelle l'importance de consulter les sources et de ne pas seulement se fier à des souvenirs qu'il nous en reste (ou à des interprétations personnelles)
C'est pourquoi il faut lire ou relire :
L'empire Moon (J.F.Boyer, 1986)
(par exemple le CHP9; et le chp17 à partir de la p.247)
J.F.Boyer, L'Empire Moon, chp 17, p.244
"Le noyau fondateur de la WACL est asiatique. En pleine guerre de Corée [1950-1953], les leaders anticommunistes de la région ressentent le besoin de s'appuyer sur une structure commune qui fera pièce au Kominform. Dès la fin de la guerre, Syngman Rhee, le Coréen du Sud, et Tchang Kaï-chek, le Chinois de Taiwan, portent sur les fonts baptismaux l' APACL - Asian People's Anti Communist League (...)" [Fin de la citation ]
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Opinion, basée sur des lectures (Boyer et d'autres):
A l'époque de la création de l'APACL par les puissances anticommunistes de la région (vers 1954-1955 ?) , Moon était un obscur tocard, qui en était encore à prêcher dans une misérable cabane de zinc rouillé, et il n'avait peut-être qu'une dizaine de fidèles. Il a été arrêté par la police sud-coréenne et jugé parce que ses voisins l'accusaient d'être un pervers hédoniste (les offices de son église avaient lieu la nuit et les participants en transe poussaient des cris équivoques etc). Il a cependant été acquitté faute de preuves en Octobre 1955.
C'est seulement à partir des années 60 que les moonistes joueront un rôle important dans l'APACL, mais celle-ci ne représente qu'une partie de la WACL. On peut dire qu'il y a une proximité entre la WACL et Moon via l'APACL, mais dire "la WACL du Révérend Moon" relève de l'amalgame et de l'approximation.
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A consulter aussi :
http://www.prevensectes.com/moon5.htm
Moon et le Front National
Selon " Le Monde " du 5 juin 1987 (" La secte Moon a mis un pied au Palais-Bourbon ") " M. Alain Vivien... a profité d'un rappel au règlement, le mercredi 3 juin, pour signaler qu'il avait reçu, comme d'autres de ses collègues, des documents provenant de Causa, qu'il a qualifiée de " filiale politique de la secte Moon ". Or ces documents lui ont été envoyés, a-t-il expliqué, " sous le timbre de l'Assemblée Nationale par un député, M. Pierre Ceyrac (élu du Nord) qui y avait joint une lettre rédigée sur du papier à en-tête de l'Assemblée ".
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Au Front National, P. Ceyrac est chargé de la cellule Propagande pour la campagne présidentielle. Il est Secrétaire départemental du Front National pour le Nord. Sa maison de Roubaix, acquisition récente, où les travaux d'aménagement ont été effectués par les militants moonistes, est l'un des Q.G. du Front National dans le département.
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En ce qui concerne le livre "Inside the league..."
Voir :
http://www.scribd.com/doc/22601699/Government-of-the-Shadows
Voir aussi :
Un compte rendu dans le "Lobster" N°13 (1986 ou 1987 ?)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/75602317/Lobster-n%C2%B013-April-1987
Inside the League Scott Anderson and Jon Lee Anderson (Dodd, Mead and Co., New York 1986)
This is the only book I know on the World Anti-Communist League. Most of it is new to me but the few bits I am familiar with look accurate, and it is reasonably well documented. It is really in two distinct sections. The first half is a shortish history of WACL, its prominent supporters and founders, and though it is patchy and incomplete, this is by far the best account I know of. The second half is really an account of the rise of the death squad politics of Central and South America, and while the people described are indeed linked to WACL, the authors do not show that WACL per se had much to do with the slaughter. The first section, WACL's history, is particularly useful for this country because it contains the best extant account of the Anti Bolshevik Bloc of Nations (ABN) and its figurehead Yaroslav Stetso [NB: Stetsko], a bunch of Nazi-collaborators, murderers and anti-Semites funded after WW2 by the US and UK governments. As the scabs of the history of the immediate post-war years are picked, ABN and Stetso will get more and more attention. (Incidentally, there is not the slightest chance of the British government doing anything about the ex-Nazis now living in this country. To expose them would entail exposing their links to British intelligence. It is a safe bet that not a sheet of official paper with their names on it now exists in Whitehall.)
As this is the first book on WACL I am in no position to evaluate it. However, as the first book it is, for the moment, invaluable. Somebody in this country should put it out, and fast.
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Stetsko, l'ABN et les collabos ukrainiens (comme le pogromiste Stepan Bandera) ont jusqu'à aujourd'hui des apologistes dans les milieux anticommunistes/antirusses ukrainiens (il faut se rappeler que l'Ukraine faisait partie de l'URSS) . Que ce soit dans la classe politique ukrainienne post-soviétique (notamment le "démocrate pro-occidental" Victor Yushenko) ou dans la diaspora . Aux Etats-Unis, il y a l'historien Myron Kuropas
Leur approche consiste à prétendre que toutes les révélations sur les liens nazis/nationalistes ukrainiens/holocauste relèvent de la "propagande soviétique". Myron Kuropas et ses associés du journal "The Ukrainian Weekly" ont d'ailleurs fait campagne pour défendre le gardien de camp John Demjanjuk ("Ivan le Terrible"). Kuropas est si antisémite que même les lobbyistes sionistes (atlantistes, anticommunistes et antirusses) ont du mal à le supporter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMbDdToWSnU&feature=relmfu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N4iCSGnY-s&feature=related
http://iosevich.wordpress.com/2011/02/21/war-criminality-a-blank-spot-in-the-collective-memory-of-the-ukrainian-diaspora/
http://balticworlds.com/ukraine%E2%80%99s-problematic-relationship-to-the-holocaust/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demjanjuk
Jusqu'à aujourdhui , on n'arrête pas d'identifier des anciens nazis/collabos/criminels de guerre parmi les "réfugiés" européens admis aux Etats-Unis, au Canada et en Grande Bretagne pendant la guerre froide.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/04/25/vladimir-katriuk-former-nazi-canada/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1104560.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/307921.stm
A ce sujet, voir les travaux de David Cesarani.
Cesarani est juif et historien de l'holocauste, mais n'est pas dans une posture de victimisation ou de nationalisme israélien exalté, au contraire il fait preuve de compassion pour les Palestiniens.
Justice Delayed: How Britain Became a Refuge for Nazi War Criminals (1992)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cesarani
Note : toutes ces lectures peuvent sembler fastidieuses et demandent des efforts mais il me semble important de bien comprendre les parcours des nazis après la seconde guerre mondiale au moment où les enquêteurs s'intéressent à des gens comme Herman Wachtelaer et Simon Genevois (qui sont de véritables nazis et s'en vantent).
Important aussi de s'intéresser aux travaux de John Loftus et au livre de Ian Johnson "A Mosqe in Munich" ...
http://www.ian-johnson.com/mosqueinmunich.html
Je dirais même que c'est une oeuvre de salubrité publique ...
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| Sujet: Re: Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge) Sam 14 Juil 2012 - 14:48 | |
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Robert K Brown a fait partie du Council for National Policy (CNP)
Sur ce "conseil", voir un article du New York Times :
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/28/politics/campaign/28conserve.html?ex=1146110400&en=f173712f417dcad1&ei=5070
Club of the Most Powerful Gathers in Strictest Privacy
By DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK
Published: August 28, 2004
Three times a year for 23 years, a little-known club of a few hundred of the most powerful conservatives in the country have met behind closed doors at undisclosed locations for a confidential conference, the Council for National Policy, to strategize about how to turn the country to the right.
Details are closely guarded.
"The media should not know when or where we meet or who takes part in our programs, before of after a meeting," a list of rules obtained by The New York Times advises the attendees.
(...)
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Nombre de messages : 1103 Date d'inscription : 30/03/2012
| Sujet: Re: Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge) Dim 15 Juil 2012 - 10:19 | |
| - Citation :
- Liée à l'USCWF et présidée de 1984 à 1986 par le général John Singlaub, qui devait
ensuite céder la place à l'ancien ministre belge de la défense José Desmarets, la WACL, elle, a été lancée en 1966 avec l'Asian Peoples Anti-Communist League ( une création, en 1954, des services secrets du Kuomintang à Taiwan et de la dictature pro-américaine au pouvoir en Corée du Sud ) et l'Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations ( une organisation comptant beaucoup d'Européens de l'Est qui avaient collaboré avec les nazis avant de passer à l'Ouest avec l'aide des services secrets américains et britanniques, tel Yaroslav Stetsko, un Ukrainien qui a participé aux massacres de Lvov par les troupes allemandes en 1941 ). Jusqu'en 1975, l'Unification Church du révérend Sun Myung Moon a également fait officiellement partie de la WACL; elle a ensuite continué d'y être représentée par le biais de sa branche japonaise, Shokyo Rengo (Victoire sur le Communisme), une association fondée en 1967 et dirigée par Yoshio Kodama (un 'parrain' de la pègre des yakuza) et Ryoichi Sasakawa ( un homme d'affaires trouble qui se décrivait lui-même comme « le fasciste le plus riche du monde »)! Source: "ONG humanitaires et politiques migratoires des États: une analyse financière et stratégique", p.40. L'auteur, Marc-Antoine Pérouse de Montclos est docteur en sciences politiques, chargé de recherche à l'Institut de recherche pour le développement (IRD).
Dernière édition par Et In Arcadia Ego le Jeu 30 Avr 2015 - 18:49, édité 2 fois |
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| José Desmarets ( PSC - CEPIC ) a succédé à Paul Vanden Boeynants ( PSC - CEPIC ) au poste de ministre belge de la Défense nationale en 1979.
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| Sujet: Re: Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge) Dim 15 Juil 2012 - 11:36 | |
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Voir "Damoclès" :
http://www.scribd.com/doc/89906445/Damocles-n%C2%B07-juillet-1986-extrait
Et il ne faut pas oublier Robert Close !
http://www.scribd.com/doc/89223540/Damocles-1983-extraits
En 1980, il devient membre de la Ligue anti-communiste mondiale (World Anti-Communist League), transformée en 1990 en Ligue mondiale pour la liberté et la démocratie (World League for Freedom and Democracy).
Voir Wikipedia et :
www.fnb.to/FNB/Article/Bastion_77/Close.htm
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En outre :
In 1978, Roger Pearson became the World Chairman of the WACL. Pearson had close neo-Nazi associations,[13] and sources report that as a result of an article in the Washington Post in 1978 critical of WACL and alleging extreme right wing politics of Pearson that either he was expelled from WACL or at least was pressured into resigning from his position as World Chairman.[14]
During the 1980s, the WACL was particularly active in Latin America, notably by aiding the Contra forces in Nicaragua.[15] During this period, WACL was criticized for the presence in the organization of neo-Nazis, war criminals, and people linked to death squads and assassinations.[3]
^ a b Anti-Semitism Charges Lead To Delay on Religion Prize, New York Times, April 19, 1988. ^ Paul W. Valentine (1978-05-28). "The Fascist Specter Behind The World Anti-Red League". Washington Post. ^ Tim Kelsey; Trevor Rowe (1990-03-04). "Academics were funded by racist American trust". The Independent.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Pearson
Roger Pearson (born 1927) is a British anthropologist, conservationist, eugenics advocate, and founder of the Neo Nazi organization Northern League, and publisher of several refereed journals.
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| Sujet: Re: Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge) Dim 15 Juil 2012 - 11:48 | |
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On rencontre beaucoup de fascistes ces temps-ci ... ; est-ce lié à l'intérêt des enquêteurs pour Simon Genevois et Herman Wachtelaer (de vrais nazis qui l'affirment d'ailleurs eux-mêmes) ?
Il y en a eu beaucoup à la WACL ... et il y en a eu beaucoup aussi qui ont été recrutés par des "services" occidentaux après la seconde guerre mondiale. Sans oublier des trafiquants d'armes comme MEREX (Klaus Barbie).
Je ne sais pas si on peut classer Guillaume Vogeleer parmi les sympathisants du nazisme ... ce qui est certain, c'est son anti-communisme viscéral.
Quant au général Robert Close, il fonda l’Institut Européen pour la Paix et la Sécurité (IEPS) et fut également président de la WACL (World Anti-Communist League).
A noter qu'il est ensuite entré au service de la princesse Liliane de Réthy (Argenteuil).
Cela fait évidemment penser à Guy Weber ...
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| Sujet: Re: Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge) Dim 15 Juil 2012 - 12:10 | |
| WIKI
WACL
La Ligue mondiale pour la liberté et la démocratie, anciennement Ligue anticommuniste mondiale ou World Anti-Communist League (WACL) jusqu'en 1990, est un cercle de réflexion et d'influence d'extrême droite, atlantiste, fondé à Taïwan en 1966 par Tchang Kaï-chek, le chef du Kuomintang et président de Taïwan jusqu'à sa mort en 1975. La branche française a été présidée par Suzanne Labin. Outre des activités de propagande, la WACL a été un important fournisseur d'armes aux mouvements paramilitaires de droite, et a été liées à de nombreux escadrons de la mort.
L'origine de la WACL se trouve dans un pacte entre Taïwan, la Corée du Sud et le Bloc des nations anti-bolchéviques (en) (Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations, ABN) de l'Ukrainien Yaroslav Stetsko (en) (1912-1986). Présidée par Tchang Kaï-chek et financée par la Chine nationaliste, elle devait ainsi étendre la Ligue anticommuniste d'Asie-Pacifique (Asian Pacific Anti-Communist League) dans une internationale d'extrême-droite. La WACL comptait de nombreux ex-nazis, néofascistes ou encore des criminels de guerre, tels le Japonais Ryōichi Sasakawa (1899-1995), qui se présentait comme « le fasciste le plus riche du monde » et qui prétendait que « la ligue anticommuniste mondiale [lui servait] d'instrument » 1. De hauts responsables de la CIA, tels Ray S. Cline, ont joué un rôle important dans l'organisation de la WACL . Cline et Stestko étaient chargés de l'instruction militaire à l'Académie de guerre politique de Taïwan, équivalent de Fort Bragg et spécialisé dans la formation à la « guerre psychologique ».
Outre le siège social de la WACL à Taipei, cédée par le gouvernement taïwanais, avec des installations à Peitou, utilisées à des fins d'entraînement paramilitaire, la Ligue est propriétaire du bloc de bureaux Freedom Center à Séoul; la KCIA (Korean Central Intelligence Agency, proche de la CIA) appuie en effet de façon importante la WACL sous le régime dictatorial de Park Chung-hee (1963-1979). Les deux États financeraient chacun la WACL à hauteur de 75 000 dollars par mois. La WACL a aussi été appuyé par la CIA, au moins sous Reagan, et a reçu des fonds de personnes privées d'Arabie saoudite ainsi que de la richissime secte Moon, dont le révérend, Sun Myung Moon, était ami de Sasakawa et membre de la WACL.
La WACL est composée de diverses fédérations régionales créées au fil du temps. Outre la Ligue anti-bolchévique des nations, héritière du Bloc des nations anti-bolchéviques (en) (Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations, ABN) de l'Ukrainien Yaroslav Stetsko (en), on connaît l'existence de: l'APACL (Asian Pacific Anti-Communist League) qui a comptait comme membres, outre Tchang Kaï-chek et Ryōichi Sasakawa, Park Chung-hee (président de la Corée du Sud de 1963 à 1979); Sun Myung Moon, de la secte Moon; le général thaïlandais Prapham Kulapichtir; le dictateur des Philippines Ferdinand Marcos, le prince du Laos Sopasaino, ou le colonel Do Dang Cong, représentant du président du Sud Vietnam Nguyen Van Thieu, etc. l'AOFD (African Organization for Freedom and Democracy); l'ECWF (Conseil européen pour la liberté mondiale); la FEDAL (Fédération des entités démocratiques d'Amérique latine, héritière de la CAL, Confédération anticommuniste latino-américaine, dont le IVe Congrès se tint à Buenos Aires en septembre 1980, l'Argentine étant alors sous dictature militaire, sous la présidence du général Guillermo Suárez Mason, en charge du Bataillon d'intelligence 601 qui intervint ensuite en Bolivie et en Amérique centrale dans le cadre de l'opération Charly 3; le dictateur bolivien Hugo Banzer fut également dirigeant de la CAL, et le général Alfredo Stroessner, dictateur du Paraguay, aurait aussi été membre de la CAL); le MESC (Middle East Solidarity Council) la NARWACL (North American Regional WACL Organization) et le United States Council for World Freedom, dirigé par le général John K. Singlaub (en), ancien de la CIA, et vice-présidée par le général Daniel O'Graham (en). La branche américaine fut liée de près au scandale Iran-Contra et à l'appui paramilitaire aux Contras contre les sandinistes du Nicaragua. et la WYFL (World Youth Freedom League, l'organisation de jeunesse de la WACL). On estime ainsi que la WACL est présente dans une centaine de pays. Elle est actuellement dirigée par sa section nord-américaine, Roger Pearson (en), un suprémaciste blanc, éditeur du journal Western Destiny de Willis Carto, un néonazi négationniste qui fonda ensuite la revue Spotlight du Liberty Lobby. Pearson développa les activités de la WACL en Europe, obtenant ainsi l'appui de la Ligue britannique de droite, du Círculo Español de Amigos de Europa (es), du Mouvement social italien (MSI, néofasciste) et, selon certains, de militants des Noyaux armés révolutionnaires (NAR ; de fait, le terroriste international Stefano Delle Chiaie était présent au IVe congrès de la CAL à Buenos Aires ), du Centro Studi Ordine Nuovo, ainsi que des réseaux anticommunistes Gladio, liés à l'OTAN.
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Nombre de messages : 1586 Date d'inscription : 10/08/2010
| Sujet: Re: Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge) Dim 15 Juil 2012 - 15:31 | |
| - HERVE a écrit:
On rencontre beaucoup de fascistes ces temps-ci ... ; est-ce lié à l'intérêt des enquêteurs pour Simon Genevois et Herman Wachtelaer (de vrais nazis qui l'affirment d'ailleurs eux-mêmes) ?
Il y en a eu beaucoup à la WACL ... et il y en a eu beaucoup aussi qui ont été recrutés par des "services" occidentaux après la seconde guerre mondiale. Sans oublier des trafiquants d'armes comme MEREX (Klaus Barbie).
Je ne sais pas si on peut classer Guillaume Vogeleer parmi les sympathisants du nazisme ... ce qui est certain, c'est son anti-communisme viscéral.
Quant au général Robert Close, il fonda l’Institut Européen pour la Paix et la Sécurité (IEPS) et fut également président de la WACL (World Anti-Communist League).
A noter qu'il est ensuite entré au service de la princesse Liliane de Réthy (Argenteuil).
Cela fait évidemment penser à Guy Weber ...
A lire et voir article +photo d 1 brochette de nazis (jeunes et -jeunes )se recueillant sur la tombe de Rudolf HEES Quand Fachoword engendre 1 nouvelle bete /NATION .........PERE UBU 12 07 01 |
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| Sujet: Re: Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge) Lun 16 Juil 2012 - 9:41 | |
| La photo et l'article dont Alain parle ci-dessus est sans doute celle qui est sur :
http://www.scribd.com/BEGHINSELEN
http://www.scribd.com/doc/100184677/Rudolf-Hess-Nazis-Belges
Hervé Van Laethem, Bert Erickson, etc
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herv%C3%A9_Van_Laethem
Voir aussi :
http://www.resistances.be/nation01.html
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| Sujet: Re: Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge) Lun 16 Juil 2012 - 14:54 | |
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Pour en revenir à Soldier of Fortune, voici un autre "journaliste" : Robert C. MacKenzie
" SOFs Robert K. Brown gave MacKenzie a job as a contributing editor for unconventional operations, and MacKenzie continued his unconventional career. "
Il a été tué en Sierra Leone en 1995.
" Robert C. MacKenzie is survived by his wife, Sybil MacKenzie and a son, Ian MacKenzie.
He was the son-in-law of Ray Steiner Cline, Deputy Director for Intelligence for the Central Intelligence Agency in 1962. MacKenzie's wife Sybil was previously married to Stefan Halper of Contragate notoriety."
Son beau-père, Ray Steiner Cline, a joué un rôle important à l'OSS puis à la CIA où il a travaillé avec John K. Singlaub. Il a participé à la création de la World League for Freedom and Democracy (WACL) in 1966.
Ceci constitue un autre lien entre la CIA, la WACL et Soldier of Fortune ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_C._MacKenzie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_S._Cline
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_League_for_Freedom_and_Democracy
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Nombre de messages : 3169 Age : 66 Localisation : LILLE Date d'inscription : 26/05/2011
| Sujet: Re: Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge) Lun 16 Juil 2012 - 15:10 | |
| - HERVE a écrit:
Pour en revenir à Soldier of Fortune, voici un autre "journaliste" : Robert C. MacKenzie
" SOFs Robert K. Brown gave MacKenzie a job as a contributing editor for unconventional operations, and MacKenzie continued his unconventional career. "
Il a été tué en Sierra Leone en 1995.
" Robert C. MacKenzie is survived by his wife, Sybil MacKenzie and a son, Ian MacKenzie.
He was the son-in-law of Ray Steiner Cline, Deputy Director for Intelligence for the Central Intelligence Agency in 1962. MacKenzie's wife Sybil was previously married to Stefan Halper of Contragate notoriety."
Son beau-père, Ray Steiner Cline, a joué un rôle important à l'OSS puis à la CIA où il a travaillé avec John K. Singlaub. Il a participé à la création de la World League for Freedom and Democracy (WACL) in 1966.
Ceci constitue un autre lien entre la CIA, la WACL et Soldier of Fortune ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_C._MacKenzie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_S._Cline
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_League_for_Freedom_and_Democracy
Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge), c'est pas le Belge ancien mercenaire Hervé ???? |
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| Sujet: Re: Guillaume Vogeleer (Jimmy le Belge) Lun 16 Juil 2012 - 15:23 | |
| Bien sûr que si ... C'est un ancien habitant des Marolles qui a tenu un bar ("Le Pan-Pan") près du square Saint-Géry et qui était proche de la pègre du coin (Havelange, etc). Il a été mercenaire avec Bob Denard au Congo. Il est passé en Amérique du Sud. En Asie, c'est lui qui distribuait des insignes "Soldier of Fortune", qui avait des exemplaires et un écusson de ce magazine sur sa table de travail (voir le reportage à son sujet) ; il était un grand ami de Jim Coyne (journaliste/photographe pour Soldier of Fortune).
Plus difficile à comprendre, par manque d'informations : il aurait été impliqué dans l'enlèvement d'un certain Asao qui travaillait pour Mitsui ... Il a déclaré qu'il travaillait "de temps en temps" pour la CIA ... mais cet enlèvement me semble encore obscur ... surtout que Mitsui n'est pas n'importe quelle société ...
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